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  • C Chris Maunder

    As long as it's a USB-C docking station (Oh, and to make it easier for everyone they don't need to make a laptop that's perfect for everyone. Perfect for me is good enough ;P)

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    Mine is to old, but the next generatin actually is.

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    • C Chris Maunder

      So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      But will it be rack-mountable?

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      • C Chris Maunder

        So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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        To the soapbox with you! ;P *sigh* It seems so easy in concept, but execution is always lacking.

        #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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        • C Chris Maunder

          So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          Roger Wright
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          Chris Maunder wrote:

          Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.

          Yep... Your phone will melt in your hand! ;P All these iAnythings make me miss my Altair. :sigh:

          Will Rogers never met me.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            W Balboos GHB
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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now,

            Taking this where I tend to take most things, I think the only hope you have for a perfect laptop will be found in a bar, complete with dancer. Cheers cheers cheers!

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              But will it be rack-mountable?

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              Forogar
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              Sounds like it is Backpack mountable!

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              • C Chris Maunder

                So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                CodeWraith
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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables

                USB 3.0 offers only 5V at 500 mA (USB 2.0) to 900 mA (USB 3.0). That's 2,5 W - 4.5 W. That's not very much when it comes to charging batteries. Your battery will most probably need a higher voltage and also a slightly higher current, both which USB can't deliver. Just for comparison: I charge my 5000 mAh batteries with about 25V and 5A (= 125 W) and it still takes an hour. Edit: The battery of a Macbook Pro is rated at 10.9V, 5500 mAh. USB is a little underpowered for that.

                I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  defenestrated

                  I've been thinking of moving away from windows for a while now... Speaking of typing on a tablet, the iOS thing where it constantly selects random words while you're typing which causes you to type over words or whole sentences is mind boggling.

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  CodeWraith
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                  Don't you move away from the window very rapidly when you have been defenestrated?

                  I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables

                    USB 3.0 offers only 5V at 500 mA (USB 2.0) to 900 mA (USB 3.0). That's 2,5 W - 4.5 W. That's not very much when it comes to charging batteries. Your battery will most probably need a higher voltage and also a slightly higher current, both which USB can't deliver. Just for comparison: I charge my 5000 mAh batteries with about 25V and 5A (= 125 W) and it still takes an hour. Edit: The battery of a Macbook Pro is rated at 10.9V, 5500 mAh. USB is a little underpowered for that.

                    I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                    Jorgen Andersson
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                    His computer has a USB-C connector. (USB 3.1+) It can transfer a minimum of 60W, and optionally more depending on the cable

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      Eric Lynch
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                      I too wish Apple would narrow the development gap between their iPad and Mac products. I'm playing around with MonoGame and considering an Apple version of my game. Regrettably, as I understand it, I need to purchase a Mac for this task. I wouldn't mind getting an iPad, which would serve other purposes, but I have no other use for a Mac. Oh well...if I can figure out the minimum required Mac, maybe I'll pick up a dinosaur off eBay.

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                        I too wish Apple would narrow the development gap between their iPad and Mac products. I'm playing around with MonoGame and considering an Apple version of my game. Regrettably, as I understand it, I need to purchase a Mac for this task. I wouldn't mind getting an iPad, which would serve other purposes, but I have no other use for a Mac. Oh well...if I can figure out the minimum required Mac, maybe I'll pick up a dinosaur off eBay.

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        Or is a hackintosh still an option?

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          Joe Woodbury
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                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now

                          Youngster. I've been waiting 30 years for a laptop that's better than "it didn't suck." BTW, for a basic tablet, I really like the Surface Go.

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                            So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            Mycroft Holmes
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                            Not quite a laptop but ... kaypro portable [^]

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                              Or is a hackintosh still an option?

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                              Eric Lynch
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                              Maybe...not sure. Though, in case I ever decide to throw it onto their App Store, I don't think I want to risk the licensing cops coming after me :) From what I understand, you can pick up a used Mac cheap enough...simply don't want to go through the hassle for a single-purpose (for me) device. Originally, I hoped I could purchase a legit macOS license and run it in a VM...oh well, wishful thinking. I guess I've been spoiled by Android. Simply fire up an emulator for free or purchase a device that is almost free. Sometimes I wonder if Apple is actively discouraging independent developers.

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                                Chris Maunder wrote:

                                I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now

                                Youngster. I've been waiting 30 years for a laptop that's better than "it didn't suck." BTW, for a basic tablet, I really like the Surface Go.

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                                …at least they've gotten better than that stone tablet (and chisel) we used to lug around :)

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                                  …at least they've gotten better than that stone tablet (and chisel) we used to lug around :)

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                                  You were lucky to have a stone tablet and chisel; we had....

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                                    Not quite a laptop but ... kaypro portable [^]

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                                    Joe Woodbury
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                                    My older brother used one of those for a while (he bought it from a neighbor after I sold my Apple II+ to buy a car.) The first portable computer I used on a non-trivial basis was a Toshiba 3100[^]. It was heavy (16 pounds), but lighter than the Kaypro II (29 pounds).

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                                      Maybe...not sure. Though, in case I ever decide to throw it onto their App Store, I don't think I want to risk the licensing cops coming after me :) From what I understand, you can pick up a used Mac cheap enough...simply don't want to go through the hassle for a single-purpose (for me) device. Originally, I hoped I could purchase a legit macOS license and run it in a VM...oh well, wishful thinking. I guess I've been spoiled by Android. Simply fire up an emulator for free or purchase a device that is almost free. Sometimes I wonder if Apple is actively discouraging independent developers.

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      Yeah, I looked into it about fifteen years ago. At the time, I probably would have gone with a Mac mini. But then I found work using C#.

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        BillWoodruff
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                                        I'd guess this couldn't be used for the massive scale dev you probably do, but, this might be of interest, Chris: Continuous: Professional C# and F# IDE for the iPad [^]

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                                        What's New Version History Jul 12, 2018 Version 1.2 * C# 7 support * Import files from other apps * Support for Reflection * Play button now shows full screen

                                        If I had an iPad, I'd check this out: for US$9.99 on the Apple Store.

                                        «Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot

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                                          So I want this[^] to proceed. Please. I've used Macbook Airs for years, then switched to the Macbook Pro and immediately regretted it because the keyboard is beyond awful and I get about 2 hrs battery life (That's from full charge, running only VS, but working steadily). I'd get easily 5-6 on a Macbook Air. I desperately wanted the Surface Pro 6 or Laptop 2 to be great but they stuck with proprietary 1980-style chargers, and for me it's USB-C or nothing. Once you get used to plugging in a single cable for your charging, video, USB and sound it's hard (and regressive) to go back to multiple cables. So given that the iPad Pro is USB-C, is faster than 92% of laptops currently on the market, is crazy thin and light and doesn't require me to remove it from my backpack at airports, I want it as my primary development machines which means I need Visual Studio on it. Please. I've been waiting for the "perfect" laptop for over 20 years now, and I honestly do think it won't happen. We'll move over to using tablets or even phones as our primary device and laptops will go the way of desktop PCs. Maybe Qualcomm will make a Snapdragon chip that can compete with an i7 and then things will get interesting.

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

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