How to stop spam?
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Is it a gmail address? My gmail does a really good job of blocking spams. But no, I don't know that there is much you can do.
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Yes, it's GMail. It probably blocks a lot more than I'm getting, but for some reason a couple slip by the filter almost daily since the last one or two months.
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Thanks for posting that. I'll bet if you look deeper at the headers you will find the TLD that points to Namecheap.com as the registrar. I've been fighting this war with them for 10 years now. I will bet my left nut it's Namecheap.
I already deleted the email. I'll keep an eye on it when I get new ones.
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There was a point where one of my registered domains had my _main_ email address and I was getting 5 spam email a day. Then I changed the domain registration to my _dumping-ground-email-address_ and the spam started going to the dumping ground the next day. Instantly cleaned up the problem on my _main_ email.
Thanks, I'll try that!
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Yes, it's GMail. It probably blocks a lot more than I'm getting, but for some reason a couple slip by the filter almost daily since the last one or two months.
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These are just a few of the top level domains that are 100% pure garbage because of namecheap. Any traffic to my networks from ANY of these results in an instant firewall rule blocking their IP addresses. There are much more, these are just the worst offenders. *@*.info *@*.top *@*.at *@*.science *@*.link *@*.xyz *@*.click *@*.pro *@*.download *@*.date *@*.design *@*.stream *@*.gdn *@*.men *@*.win *@*.ke *@*.club *@*.ar *@*.bid *@*.trade *@*.loan *@*.host *@*.icu *@*.cc *@*.vip *@*.us *@*.pw *@*.ooo *@*.site
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I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:
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My solution to low spam, more than anything else, relies upon using email forwards and a catch-all within that domain. Some of the forwards are "permanent" - I actually enter them, often enough to send the same email to more than one place to make sure I get it on the sooner-side. It's the catch-all that works with the spam-killing. Every single place I do business with, when they ask for an email address, gets one with their name tied to it. For example, assuming a catch-all forward for the domain SnotRag.org, if I do business with amazon then I use amazon@snotrag.org; if I do business with you, it's Sander_Rossel@SnotRag.org, &etc. Since it's a catch-all address, all email that's not forwarded specifically (as per paragraph two) automatically work. Nothing for me to do but wait for email at my specified box. If I start getting SPAM, I know just who sold me out: they have their signature on it. Now - how to stop them? I made an SMTP mailer (mentioned previously at CP) that can be told to send email in a loop - as many as I want. 100? 1000? Just the click of a button. Moreover, I can tell it to spoof the return address with extension from primary domains (like .gmail.com, hotmail.com, etc.) - and generate the first chars randomly. Also, another option is to add some extra random text to the subject and body so as to slow down identification by spam filters. I might sent the first request they stop (directly to them) with a real return address and somewhat polite body. If that doesn't work, I'll ask them 100 times - and if that doesn't work . . . . bombs away! Those who sold me out get a kick-in-the-ass, as well, with a pointy-toed-shoe. Some Pakistani sites took a serious beating (address from page scraping) and now they don't. A few hundred emails, several times a day, into their business box, and they understand that SPAM is not nice. In one case, a rather "unpleasant" graphic was embedded for their viewing pleasure (as a link). My sympathy for them, touting their line of Nazi paraphernalia (newly produced) is, let's just say, below none. So, :elephant: them - often and with vigor - and they'll figure it out.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, th
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I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:
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The only solution for stopping spam is to stop using computers, phones, or anything that receives and sends emails. Your email address is bought and sold on the internet every day between companies and marketing companies legit/non-legit. You can never stop someone from sending you spam.
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These are just a few of the top level domains that are 100% pure garbage because of namecheap. Any traffic to my networks from ANY of these results in an instant firewall rule blocking their IP addresses. There are much more, these are just the worst offenders. *@*.info *@*.top *@*.at *@*.science *@*.link *@*.xyz *@*.click *@*.pro *@*.download *@*.date *@*.design *@*.stream *@*.gdn *@*.men *@*.win *@*.ke *@*.club *@*.ar *@*.bid *@*.trade *@*.loan *@*.host *@*.icu *@*.cc *@*.vip *@*.us *@*.pw *@*.ooo *@*.site
Why do those even exist :doh: Like any legitimate business would use any of those. Except .cc (Creative Commons) and apparently top-level domain for Cocos Islands near Australia?. And .at is just .Austria, we have plenty .nl in the Netherlands so I'm guessing Austria has plenty. at. And same for .us, although I imagine they'd mostly be using .com. But especially .loan, .trade, .bid, .download, .click and .xyz are just inviting spammers.
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I would be curious what the domain was for your spam you are talking about. I've gotten to the point where I can recognize a "NameCheap.com" spam without even doing a Whois on it. Did it come from a .info, .xyz, .pw domain for example? You need to 100% block ALL of those - permanently. They are 100% spam.
You are absolutely wrong - fortunately (for both of us?) I never have or will need to send you email. I have used, for over a decade, a .info domain as one of my personal domains. From this and another of your emails in the thread, I can assure you that you've already lost the war as they keep you busy trying to keep on top of them. How much are you paid for your time? Or, how much broad-spectrum blocking, the good with the bad, are you willing to accept? Again, they win! You will not receive email that wasn't spam because you blocked it. Or even more maintenance to unblock those blocked by your bulk practices.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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No, mine are registered via google domains. Google is inexpensive and great and easy to use. Also, I moved away from GoDaddy a few years ago now. It's a trash-hole. :laugh:
I moved domains, websites, everything from that arrogant SOB at GoDaddy. Since I wanted the (free) email forwards (and the charitable group I manage a website for, free, is not exactly wealthy) I got the best deals at NameCheap.com . Unlike GoDaddy, you do need a brain to get by. On the other hand, they don't low-ball you in and then gouge you on renewals. Actually, they have some pretty consistent monthly specials to cut things down a bit more - but even without them they're (another) good deal.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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My solution to low spam, more than anything else, relies upon using email forwards and a catch-all within that domain. Some of the forwards are "permanent" - I actually enter them, often enough to send the same email to more than one place to make sure I get it on the sooner-side. It's the catch-all that works with the spam-killing. Every single place I do business with, when they ask for an email address, gets one with their name tied to it. For example, assuming a catch-all forward for the domain SnotRag.org, if I do business with amazon then I use amazon@snotrag.org; if I do business with you, it's Sander_Rossel@SnotRag.org, &etc. Since it's a catch-all address, all email that's not forwarded specifically (as per paragraph two) automatically work. Nothing for me to do but wait for email at my specified box. If I start getting SPAM, I know just who sold me out: they have their signature on it. Now - how to stop them? I made an SMTP mailer (mentioned previously at CP) that can be told to send email in a loop - as many as I want. 100? 1000? Just the click of a button. Moreover, I can tell it to spoof the return address with extension from primary domains (like .gmail.com, hotmail.com, etc.) - and generate the first chars randomly. Also, another option is to add some extra random text to the subject and body so as to slow down identification by spam filters. I might sent the first request they stop (directly to them) with a real return address and somewhat polite body. If that doesn't work, I'll ask them 100 times - and if that doesn't work . . . . bombs away! Those who sold me out get a kick-in-the-ass, as well, with a pointy-toed-shoe. Some Pakistani sites took a serious beating (address from page scraping) and now they don't. A few hundred emails, several times a day, into their business box, and they understand that SPAM is not nice. In one case, a rather "unpleasant" graphic was embedded for their viewing pleasure (as a link). My sympathy for them, touting their line of Nazi paraphernalia (newly produced) is, let's just say, below none. So, :elephant: them - often and with vigor - and they'll figure it out.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, th
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That's not really an option. Besides, it'll only be a matter of time before I get spam on the new address too :sigh:
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Besides, it'll only be a matter of time before I get spam on the new address too
So then you're hosed either way. Case closed.
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Why do those even exist :doh: Like any legitimate business would use any of those. Except .cc (Creative Commons) and apparently top-level domain for Cocos Islands near Australia?. And .at is just .Austria, we have plenty .nl in the Netherlands so I'm guessing Austria has plenty. at. And same for .us, although I imagine they'd mostly be using .com. But especially .loan, .trade, .bid, .download, .click and .xyz are just inviting spammers.
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One reason they exist? The originals are just plain running out of unique options. That guy has some sort of burr up his ass about NameCheap. As I told him, I've been using a .info address for over a decade. It was not, however, originated at NameCheap, but at GoDaddy. Your like .cc - "creative" commerce - look into a mirror with your commmen about why are the others needed. Why is that needed? "Create" to build the ego of the owner? Actually, there's no problem with .cc, as far as I'm concerned. In fact, if you were a spammer, wouldn't you pick the most common possible domain extensions to appear as legit as possible . . . and also to in-your-face foil someone like 'Basildane' ? I've not gotten spam at my registrar public visible address. Others have. I have found the main source of trouble is screen-scraping websites for email. Also, I've seen emailers just randomly generate strings and send spam, using a big-name target (????@yahoo.com, ???@gmail.com). Then, just wait for the clicks to "Remove them" for a list of saleable live targets.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:
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I'm not sure it is possible so I made an account I use to sign up everywhere. It is called spammagnet with a few numbers on the end. It is at google and their spam filters are pretty good. I rarely use my personal account(s) for that stuff and they very rarely receive any spam.
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This is my GMail account, don't think I have all those options (or want to get that deep into it) ;)
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Hi Sander, That is really odd. I have had a Gmail account from more or less when they became available ( 15 odd years ago or so ) and I have to say Gmail has always been quite good at blocking spam etc... Something slips through every now and again bit it is very rare. I wonder why yours might be doing so much worse. Every now and again I have look at the spam folder just to see how many Nigerian princes are willing to share hidden funds with me, after paying a certain amount of money to get access to them of course. :laugh:
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One reason they exist? The originals are just plain running out of unique options. That guy has some sort of burr up his ass about NameCheap. As I told him, I've been using a .info address for over a decade. It was not, however, originated at NameCheap, but at GoDaddy. Your like .cc - "creative" commerce - look into a mirror with your commmen about why are the others needed. Why is that needed? "Create" to build the ego of the owner? Actually, there's no problem with .cc, as far as I'm concerned. In fact, if you were a spammer, wouldn't you pick the most common possible domain extensions to appear as legit as possible . . . and also to in-your-face foil someone like 'Basildane' ? I've not gotten spam at my registrar public visible address. Others have. I have found the main source of trouble is screen-scraping websites for email. Also, I've seen emailers just randomly generate strings and send spam, using a big-name target (????@yahoo.com, ???@gmail.com). Then, just wait for the clicks to "Remove them" for a list of saleable live targets.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
In fact, if you were a spammer, wouldn't you pick the most common possible domain extensions to appear as legit as possible
You'd think so, but for some reason they don't. Their email addresses are suspicious, their fonts are suspicious, their typing errors are suspicious. Everything about these spammers is suspicious, while it shouldn't be too hard to at least write an email without typos and in a default font :confused: I get "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" and not "Hi, my name is Christopher". I'd probably open the latter, but absolutely not the former yet that's what I get.
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Hi Sander, That is really odd. I have had a Gmail account from more or less when they became available ( 15 odd years ago or so ) and I have to say Gmail has always been quite good at blocking spam etc... Something slips through every now and again bit it is very rare. I wonder why yours might be doing so much worse. Every now and again I have look at the spam folder just to see how many Nigerian princes are willing to share hidden funds with me, after paying a certain amount of money to get access to them of course. :laugh:
Yeah, me too. GMail is pretty good, but since a while, about four a day slip through. It happens more often, but never more than a few days so this has been going on far longer than usual. There's still a good chance it will just stop at some time though.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
In fact, if you were a spammer, wouldn't you pick the most common possible domain extensions to appear as legit as possible
You'd think so, but for some reason they don't. Their email addresses are suspicious, their fonts are suspicious, their typing errors are suspicious. Everything about these spammers is suspicious, while it shouldn't be too hard to at least write an email without typos and in a default font :confused: I get "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" and not "Hi, my name is Christopher". I'd probably open the latter, but absolutely not the former yet that's what I get.
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Actually, I'd open neither. "Hi, my name is . . . " cannot be in any way a good thing. If I don't know their name, why are they sending me email? Clearly, they want something. Or. maybe they want to share millions of dollars with me? The most recent spam's I've gotten are using a yahoo.com email target - the actual address. A VERY LONG TIME AGO I actually gave it out directly. Nothing on the internet ever goes away. In the body (I was searching for an email target) they even identify themselves as being based in Romania - with a .com return address. Touting different items in each of the three (so far). As soon as I zero in on a target email, I'll have my day of reckoning. Be aware, however, that the "FROM" address can be spoofed trivially. So, whilst the internal links can go anywhere, the filter to limit the top level domain is really quite worthless and maybe counter productive. For that reason, since they're pushing "other peoples stuff" for a fee I need to get a definite target address. The ".com", is, in fact, probably legit for a "legit" spamming company. Actually each has two targets: the sender AND their sponsor. Anecdote: I followed the sponsor (whois) to their site (not via the email) and sent the email to the person who set up the solicitation (some hoaky online school). I also added to the CC list the emails of the CEO, Faculty Department Heads, &etc. Whatever I could get off their site. About 300, all at once, adjusted their attitude pretty well.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:
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The solution of last resort, IMO. You're seriously inconveniencing all your contacts more than anything else. And it's not much of a long-term solution either - the reality is, you don't have to give out a new email address to *anyone* for the spammers to start sending junk to it. It'll be discovered sooner or later, and then they all start sharing the address with their buddies. I've registered accounts with variations of my name on a few of the more popular free email systems, and I can guarantee some of these have *never* been shared with anyone. That includes systems that have been put together by people who (you'd think) have a pretty good grip by now on how to handle spam (Gmail and Outlook among others). Yet spam still makes it in. That means there'd be plenty more coming in on systems that aren't as good at identifying spam.
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And it's not much of a long-term solution either - the reality is, you don't have to give out a new email address to anyone for the spammers to start sending junk to it.
Yep, and that's the point. There really isn't any way to stop getting spam, either short-term or long-term. You can create a new address. You'll stop getting spam, but only for the short-term.
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I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:
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While (spammers exist): 1. Find the PHYSICAL address of the spammer 2. Purchase an ICBM from your neighbourhood shady arms dealer 3. Launch the ICBM to the spammer's PHYSICAL address 4. Repeat as necessary Profit :)
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