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That's not really an option. Besides, it'll only be a matter of time before I get spam on the new address too :sigh:
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Besides, it'll only be a matter of time before I get spam on the new address too
So then you're hosed either way. Case closed.
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Why do those even exist :doh: Like any legitimate business would use any of those. Except .cc (Creative Commons) and apparently top-level domain for Cocos Islands near Australia?. And .at is just .Austria, we have plenty .nl in the Netherlands so I'm guessing Austria has plenty. at. And same for .us, although I imagine they'd mostly be using .com. But especially .loan, .trade, .bid, .download, .click and .xyz are just inviting spammers.
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One reason they exist? The originals are just plain running out of unique options. That guy has some sort of burr up his ass about NameCheap. As I told him, I've been using a .info address for over a decade. It was not, however, originated at NameCheap, but at GoDaddy. Your like .cc - "creative" commerce - look into a mirror with your commmen about why are the others needed. Why is that needed? "Create" to build the ego of the owner? Actually, there's no problem with .cc, as far as I'm concerned. In fact, if you were a spammer, wouldn't you pick the most common possible domain extensions to appear as legit as possible . . . and also to in-your-face foil someone like 'Basildane' ? I've not gotten spam at my registrar public visible address. Others have. I have found the main source of trouble is screen-scraping websites for email. Also, I've seen emailers just randomly generate strings and send spam, using a big-name target (????@yahoo.com, ???@gmail.com). Then, just wait for the clicks to "Remove them" for a list of saleable live targets.
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I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:
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I'm not sure it is possible so I made an account I use to sign up everywhere. It is called spammagnet with a few numbers on the end. It is at google and their spam filters are pretty good. I rarely use my personal account(s) for that stuff and they very rarely receive any spam.
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This is my GMail account, don't think I have all those options (or want to get that deep into it) ;)
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Hi Sander, That is really odd. I have had a Gmail account from more or less when they became available ( 15 odd years ago or so ) and I have to say Gmail has always been quite good at blocking spam etc... Something slips through every now and again bit it is very rare. I wonder why yours might be doing so much worse. Every now and again I have look at the spam folder just to see how many Nigerian princes are willing to share hidden funds with me, after paying a certain amount of money to get access to them of course. :laugh:
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One reason they exist? The originals are just plain running out of unique options. That guy has some sort of burr up his ass about NameCheap. As I told him, I've been using a .info address for over a decade. It was not, however, originated at NameCheap, but at GoDaddy. Your like .cc - "creative" commerce - look into a mirror with your commmen about why are the others needed. Why is that needed? "Create" to build the ego of the owner? Actually, there's no problem with .cc, as far as I'm concerned. In fact, if you were a spammer, wouldn't you pick the most common possible domain extensions to appear as legit as possible . . . and also to in-your-face foil someone like 'Basildane' ? I've not gotten spam at my registrar public visible address. Others have. I have found the main source of trouble is screen-scraping websites for email. Also, I've seen emailers just randomly generate strings and send spam, using a big-name target (????@yahoo.com, ???@gmail.com). Then, just wait for the clicks to "Remove them" for a list of saleable live targets.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
In fact, if you were a spammer, wouldn't you pick the most common possible domain extensions to appear as legit as possible
You'd think so, but for some reason they don't. Their email addresses are suspicious, their fonts are suspicious, their typing errors are suspicious. Everything about these spammers is suspicious, while it shouldn't be too hard to at least write an email without typos and in a default font :confused: I get "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" and not "Hi, my name is Christopher". I'd probably open the latter, but absolutely not the former yet that's what I get.
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Hi Sander, That is really odd. I have had a Gmail account from more or less when they became available ( 15 odd years ago or so ) and I have to say Gmail has always been quite good at blocking spam etc... Something slips through every now and again bit it is very rare. I wonder why yours might be doing so much worse. Every now and again I have look at the spam folder just to see how many Nigerian princes are willing to share hidden funds with me, after paying a certain amount of money to get access to them of course. :laugh:
Yeah, me too. GMail is pretty good, but since a while, about four a day slip through. It happens more often, but never more than a few days so this has been going on far longer than usual. There's still a good chance it will just stop at some time though.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
In fact, if you were a spammer, wouldn't you pick the most common possible domain extensions to appear as legit as possible
You'd think so, but for some reason they don't. Their email addresses are suspicious, their fonts are suspicious, their typing errors are suspicious. Everything about these spammers is suspicious, while it shouldn't be too hard to at least write an email without typos and in a default font :confused: I get "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" and not "Hi, my name is Christopher". I'd probably open the latter, but absolutely not the former yet that's what I get.
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Actually, I'd open neither. "Hi, my name is . . . " cannot be in any way a good thing. If I don't know their name, why are they sending me email? Clearly, they want something. Or. maybe they want to share millions of dollars with me? The most recent spam's I've gotten are using a yahoo.com email target - the actual address. A VERY LONG TIME AGO I actually gave it out directly. Nothing on the internet ever goes away. In the body (I was searching for an email target) they even identify themselves as being based in Romania - with a .com return address. Touting different items in each of the three (so far). As soon as I zero in on a target email, I'll have my day of reckoning. Be aware, however, that the "FROM" address can be spoofed trivially. So, whilst the internal links can go anywhere, the filter to limit the top level domain is really quite worthless and maybe counter productive. For that reason, since they're pushing "other peoples stuff" for a fee I need to get a definite target address. The ".com", is, in fact, probably legit for a "legit" spamming company. Actually each has two targets: the sender AND their sponsor. Anecdote: I followed the sponsor (whois) to their site (not via the email) and sent the email to the person who set up the solicitation (some hoaky online school). I also added to the CC list the emails of the CEO, Faculty Department Heads, &etc. Whatever I could get off their site. About 300, all at once, adjusted their attitude pretty well.
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"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:
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The solution of last resort, IMO. You're seriously inconveniencing all your contacts more than anything else. And it's not much of a long-term solution either - the reality is, you don't have to give out a new email address to *anyone* for the spammers to start sending junk to it. It'll be discovered sooner or later, and then they all start sharing the address with their buddies. I've registered accounts with variations of my name on a few of the more popular free email systems, and I can guarantee some of these have *never* been shared with anyone. That includes systems that have been put together by people who (you'd think) have a pretty good grip by now on how to handle spam (Gmail and Outlook among others). Yet spam still makes it in. That means there'd be plenty more coming in on systems that aren't as good at identifying spam.
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And it's not much of a long-term solution either - the reality is, you don't have to give out a new email address to anyone for the spammers to start sending junk to it.
Yep, and that's the point. There really isn't any way to stop getting spam, either short-term or long-term. You can create a new address. You'll stop getting spam, but only for the short-term.
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I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:
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While (spammers exist): 1. Find the PHYSICAL address of the spammer 2. Purchase an ICBM from your neighbourhood shady arms dealer 3. Launch the ICBM to the spammer's PHYSICAL address 4. Repeat as necessary Profit :)
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Yeah, me too. GMail is pretty good, but since a while, about four a day slip through. It happens more often, but never more than a few days so this has been going on far longer than usual. There's still a good chance it will just stop at some time though.
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The other problem is, GMail blocks emails that aren't spam. I used to get 40-50 spam emails a day although it's dropped to 20-30 in CoViD-19. (Why?) Maybe 4 or 5 a week would be emails which should have got through. So I check my GMail spam folder every day.
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The other problem is, GMail blocks emails that aren't spam. I used to get 40-50 spam emails a day although it's dropped to 20-30 in CoViD-19. (Why?) Maybe 4 or 5 a week would be emails which should have got through. So I check my GMail spam folder every day.
I read ALL my mail, so if I get a spam message my spam folder will go to the top and show (x) unread emails. For some reason, almost all my Microsoft/Azure/DevOps newsletters are spam so I whitelisted the Microsoft domain. Other than that it rarely happens though. Four to five a week sounds like a lot, are they from the same person/company? If so, consider whitelisting them.
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I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:
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Haven't checked, I just had one from .us. I don't doubt that it is spam, even without looking at the domain. It gets in my spam folder, but I really just don't want it at all.
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Sander, Outlook client lets you view the email source and the Internet headers so you can see where the email actually came from (see sample below). I do not use Gmail I do not know if it has the same capability. _________________________
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Sander, Outlook client lets you view the email source and the Internet headers so you can see where the email actually came from (see sample below). I do not use Gmail I do not know if it has the same capability. _________________________
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Yeah, every time I reply to a message it gets flagged as spam at least for a period of time.
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I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:
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Yep! My work email address gets spam and the only place that address has ever been used is on some vendor websites. So, at least one of them has been selling their customer/address list.
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Dave KreskowiakCould be an inside job, too. A few weeks after a merger which gave me a brand new email address I never used anywhere, I started receiving spam on the unused address. I figure that one of the thousands of third party contractors scraped the whole address book and sold it for a few dollars.
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I know, don't give out my email address to strangers. But apparently, I'm past that point. Fact is, since about two months I receive daily spam messages. "H i m y n a m e i s C h r i s t o p h e r" "Sander Rossel, your bol.com gift card is ready!" (I get this one daily, from [probably randomly generated]@[same randomly generated].us) "Petlove - [Spanish(?)]" How can I find out where they come from and how can I stop them, if this is at all possible? These mails have "unsubscribe?" links, which I'm obviously not going to click :sigh:
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Fortunately, I have my own domain. I created an email address "DoNotReply@DomainName.com" for emails that are immediately and automatically deleted. I created an email address "Info@DomainName.com" for emails that are just that, for any requests for information. These emails go into my info folder, which if worthy, are either saved. The rest are deleted. My primary email address is for friends and family. They all still get spam, but are much easier to manage.
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All I can say is don't bother setting up rules if you're using Windows 10's built-in email client. I don't know how Microsoft can claim it works *at all*.
I have the same experience. Windows 10 Outlook NEVER properly handles spam. It allows dumb stuff through and filters out emails from people's email addresses that I've authorized/white listed. Fairly worthless spam filtering!
