I hate something I know nothing about...
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Isn't the bane of human existence the realization of how clueless we were 5 years ago and blocking out the realization that we are currently clueless compared to our 5 years in the future self? Of course if you are not, that means you won't learn anything substantial in the next 5 years.
Tru dat, man.
Jeremy Falcon
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Look, I don't like JavaScript and I believe it has been used and abused way beyond what it meant to be used for. Since I have worked with both JavaScript and VBScript extensively in my career, for me, I always preferred VBScript since it was a far easier scripting language to use and implement. And when compared to JavaScript, it was also a far superior language implementation. Today, JavaScript is a sheer mess of tools, frameworks, and the like. You see many complaints regarding which tool or framework is best as well as which would be the most reliable for the long term. In addition, the use of massive amounts of JavaScript in web applications make them more vulnerable to attack and less efficient. And there is very little real sense in using so much of this language. But JavaScript's use and expansion into development circles was primarily predicated on the fact that it was free and Open Source, which was all the rage years ago, while VBScript was limited to Windows functionality such as Internet Explorer. Had Microsoft done the intelligent thing and Open Sourced VBScript when it no longer wanted to support this language, allowing the community to expand its capabilities and the browsers it could target, JavaScript never would have become the thing it is today...
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Yeah dude, no. You're confusing a lot of different things here besides the language itself. Not gonna spend time on this... tootles.
Jeremy Falcon
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I do agree with what your saying but had to point out ... Bloodletting is not totally garbage. My family carries a gene for a deadly disease for which phlebotomy aka bloodletting is the prescribed treatment. (Hemochromatosis: a build up of too much iron in the blood and tissues causing serious major organ damage)
Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss. Lazarus Long, "Time Enough For Love" by Robert A. Heinlein
Didn't know that. Touché :thumbsup:
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
These are all wise, but then you get online and someone's like.... eff eff eff eff you... you ask "why"? Then they're like because you use the wrong keyboard.
Do you mind to elaborate? I don't understand what you mean. Are you talking about me concrete or are you talking about people / situation in general? What do you mean with "the wrong keyboard"?
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
these are grown "men" who never went outside. It's ok to piss them off, they're not going anywhere in life. :laugh:
Teasing people from time to time is ok and can be funny, yeah :-D But IMO, it still should be kept within "ethical" limits and not lead to trolling or worse.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Nelek wrote:
Are you talking about me concrete or are you talking about people / situation in general?
Generalizing man. I think you're awesome. I would elaborate, but this thread is already devolving into the phlegm of the Internet, I'll call it. Let's just say, peeps be immature and they be online a lot apparently, because the real world don't want them. Not you dude. :laugh:
Nelek wrote:
Teasing people from time to time is ok and can be funny, yeah
It's like anything though man. Like if you and I teased each other, we know each other well enough by now to know it's a joke. I'm referring to the crap where you can tell people really need to grow up.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I did something called growing up
Yet in our most recent discussion you didn't hesitate to assume I know nothing about JavaScript just because I disagree with you (and now you're assuming you know more than pretty much the entirety of CP). I've worked with JavaScript for over ten years (mostly front-end, mind you), I did some non-trivial work in it, and I can simply say it's a horrible language. I'm not saying it can't do stuff, I'm saying it has way too many WTFs and doing stuff is often hard or weird. The way it handles NaN (which you can easily get, for example by doing 1 - {}, yet 1 + {} yields a string), how "this" is handled is just pure madness, many WTFs with basic operators (like the + and - of a number and object, now try + and - on a string and number), missing basic functionality (although that's getting better), the lack of an integer type or a "safe" decimal type, the whole ecosystem which forces you to install 100s of dependencies of which some have a single line of code (padLeft, anyone?), and the list goes on. It wasn't to long ago where the only sure way to check if an object is an array was
Object.prototype.toString.call(obj) === "[object Array]"and for NaNobj !== objdespite theisNaNandisArrayfunctions! You seem to love JavaScript for some reason, the rest of the world hates it. But of course the rest of the world must be wrong. You claim people lack the maturity to not be overly emotional about crap, yet you seem overly emotional about JavaScript. Let's be mature about it and agree to disagree.Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript
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You don't know the difference between a language, the DOM and browser, and browser issues. You're not an expert... no matter how much you pretend to be online.
Jeremy Falcon
Yeah, you're probably right. After all, I've only been programming since 1978, and have only written nine compilers. Perhaps, on the other hand, you should actually read what I wrote, rather than reacting like an infant.
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Yeah, you're probably right. After all, I've only been programming since 1978, and have only written nine compilers. Perhaps, on the other hand, you should actually read what I wrote, rather than reacting like an infant.
You can insult me, that doesn't mean I'm wrong. It means your old and still haven't learned to communicate or speak in concepts. Tootles.
Jeremy Falcon
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You can insult me, that doesn't mean I'm wrong. It means your old and still haven't learned to communicate or speak in concepts. Tootles.
Jeremy Falcon
Attack what I said, then, instead of attacking me. By doing that, you lose automatically. Go on: tell me why I'm wrong. It's such fun when children get hold of the power tools.
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Attack what I said, then, instead of attacking me. By doing that, you lose automatically. Go on: tell me why I'm wrong. It's such fun when children get hold of the power tools.
You're not an expert, son. But, you are wasting my time. So, enjoy having the last word....
Jeremy Falcon
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You're not an expert, son. But, you are wasting my time. So, enjoy having the last word....
Jeremy Falcon
Whatever. "Add ignorant to deluded giving Dunning-Kruger", as they say in Cobol, which is a language in which people write shopping lists and convince themselves they're programmers. And you've still failed to do anything other than insult me, from which I learn that you're actually talking to a mirror and I'm just listening.
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Btw, I'm not wasting my time on your posts anymore when you've proven you don't even read mine before you do your hate thing. I expected more out of you.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
when you've proven you don't even read mine
I've read it, as I have read other posts of yours, and if there's one thing I can conclude it's that you're far from "grown up". See ya later, "mid".
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I know this for a fact, because I have seen this Physics Prof, and sat through his sessions, where he used to make remarks on things he was having only hearsay kind of knowledge. (He is not alive anymore, so I will not name him).
Forgive me, but hearing something said by someone else doesn't make it a fact. The history of science is littered with mistakes by scientists who were adamant that they were right about something, when it later turned out they were completely wrong.
