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  • H hairy_hats

    Giles wrote: Then there is the pronaounciation, and the fact that there are lots of words that sound the same but mean different things..... There, Their, They're Which, Witch Where, Were, Wear 'Where' I am, Where, Wear and Ware are pronounced the same; Were isn't (sounds like 'Whirr')...though maybe that's just a UK thang... ;-) My favourite English spelling quirk has to be 'ough' - different sounds in Cough, Bough, Though, Through, Thought must confuse the hell out of non-native speakers. Steve.

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    viaduct wrote: My favourite English spelling quirk has to be 'ough' - different sounds in Cough, Bough, Though, Through, Thought must confuse the hell out of non-native speakers. Bernard Shaw suggested changing the spelling of "fish" to "ghoti". [gh] from "lau[gh]" [o] from "w[o]men" [ti] from "na[ti]on". Nish

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      viaduct wrote: My favourite English spelling quirk has to be 'ough' - different sounds in Cough, Bough, Though, Through, Thought must confuse the hell out of non-native speakers. Bernard Shaw suggested changing the spelling of "fish" to "ghoti". [gh] from "lau[gh]" [o] from "w[o]men" [ti] from "na[ti]on". Nish

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      Nishant Sivakumar wrote: Bernard Shaw suggested changing the spelling of "fish" to "ghoti". [gh] from "lau[gh]" [o] from "w[o]men" [ti] from "na[ti]on". Nish Maybe you could change Nish to Knoti?

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        viaduct wrote: My favourite English spelling quirk has to be 'ough' - different sounds in Cough, Bough, Though, Through, Thought must confuse the hell out of non-native speakers. Bernard Shaw suggested changing the spelling of "fish" to "ghoti". [gh] from "lau[gh]" [o] from "w[o]men" [ti] from "na[ti]on". Nish

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        Vikram A Punathambekar
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        :-D Cheers, Vikram.


        http://www.geocities.com/vpunathambekar "It's like hitting water with your fist. There's all sorts of motion and noise at impact, and no impression left whatsoever shortly thereafter." — gantww.

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        • H hairy_hats

          Nishant Sivakumar wrote: Bernard Shaw suggested changing the spelling of "fish" to "ghoti". [gh] from "lau[gh]" [o] from "w[o]men" [ti] from "na[ti]on". Nish Maybe you could change Nish to Knoti?

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          viaduct wrote: Maybe you could change Nish to Knoti? Or Pnoti :-)

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          • H hairy_hats

            Nishant Sivakumar wrote: Bernard Shaw suggested changing the spelling of "fish" to "ghoti". [gh] from "lau[gh]" [o] from "w[o]men" [ti] from "na[ti]on". Nish Maybe you could change Nish to Knoti?

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            Vikram A Punathambekar
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            viaduct wrote: Maybe you could change Nish to Knoti? :laugh: I wish I'd thought of that. Cheers, Vikram.


            http://www.geocities.com/vpunathambekar "It's like hitting water with your fist. There's all sorts of motion and noise at impact, and no impression left whatsoever shortly thereafter." — gantww.

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              viaduct wrote: Maybe you could change Nish to Knoti? :laugh: I wish I'd thought of that. Cheers, Vikram.


              http://www.geocities.com/vpunathambekar "It's like hitting water with your fist. There's all sorts of motion and noise at impact, and no impression left whatsoever shortly thereafter." — gantww.

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              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: I wish I'd thought of that. I knew that was coming :-)

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                Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: I wish I'd thought of that. I knew that was coming :-)

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                Nishant Sivakumar wrote: I knew that was coming Couldn't let a good feedline go to waste. ;P

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                • H hairy_hats

                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote: I knew that was coming Couldn't let a good feedline go to waste. ;P

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                  viaduct wrote: Couldn't let a good feedline go to waste. Yeah, I understood :-D

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                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote: The 'r' is silent. But it's not pronounced like ion. iron is pronounced more like i-ern

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                    That sounds like scottisch or the silly english that you hear in pirate movies... Behind every great black man...             ... is the police. - Conspiracy brother Blog[^]

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      As someone of German heritage, I've seen first hand that people learn a new language word by word, and then translate using the tense that feels right to them. On another front I was listening to a German metal band yesterday and they have a song called 'Iron Force', but every time he sings it, he emphasises the r in 'iron'. It made me laugh, anyhow. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                      Christian Graus wrote: On another front I was listening to a German metal band yesterday and they have a song called 'Iron Force', but every time he sings it, he emphasises the r in 'iron'. It made me laugh, anyhow. The singer of a metal band doesn't know how to pronounce 'Iron Maiden'??? :omg:

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                        That sounds like scottisch or the silly english that you hear in pirate movies... Behind every great black man...             ... is the police. - Conspiracy brother Blog[^]

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                        Bob Stanneveld wrote: That sounds like scottisch or the silly english that you hear in pirate movies... eye-ern sounds silly to you? So, you pronounce it as i"r"on? (pronouncing the r as in ironic)?

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                          Christian Graus wrote: On another front I was listening to a German metal band yesterday and they have a song called 'Iron Force', but every time he sings it, he emphasises the r in 'iron'. It made me laugh, anyhow. The singer of a metal band doesn't know how to pronounce 'Iron Maiden'??? :omg:

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                          CP Visitor wrote: The singer of a metal band doesn't know how to pronounce 'Iron Maiden'??? Since when have metal band singers pronounced other band-names correctly :-)

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                            Giles wrote: I like the fact that you can swear every other word in a sentance and still make sense. Though I don't do it too often. Yeah that's fun ;-)

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                            You must have heard of Jive? Its an interpretation of English I suppose. But the words all mean different things, and well its a good example of extream acts of wrongness in languagification. http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/jbc/home/chef.html[^]


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                              Giles wrote: Then there is the pronaounciation, and the fact that there are lots of words that sound the same but mean different things..... There, Their, They're Which, Witch Where, Were, Wear 'Where' I am, Where, Wear and Ware are pronounced the same; Were isn't (sounds like 'Whirr')...though maybe that's just a UK thang... ;-) My favourite English spelling quirk has to be 'ough' - different sounds in Cough, Bough, Though, Through, Thought must confuse the hell out of non-native speakers. Steve.

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                              Giles
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                              You're not my wife are you? As she keeps telling me!!!!!! :laugh:


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                                Bob Stanneveld wrote: That sounds like scottisch or the silly english that you hear in pirate movies... eye-ern sounds silly to you? So, you pronounce it as i"r"on? (pronouncing the r as in ironic)?

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                                I dont pronounce the r as in ironic, but I don't pronounce it like eye-ern either... I put the emphasis on the 'o' like iron. Well, what can I say, I'm dutch.. :-D Behind every great black man...             ... is the police. - Conspiracy brother Blog[^]

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                                • B Bob Stanneveld

                                  I dont pronounce the r as in ironic, but I don't pronounce it like eye-ern either... I put the emphasis on the 'o' like iron. Well, what can I say, I'm dutch.. :-D Behind every great black man...             ... is the police. - Conspiracy brother Blog[^]

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                                  Bob Stanneveld wrote: I put the emphasis on the 'o' like iron. But then it'll resemble ion, won't it?

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                                  • G Giles

                                    You must have heard of Jive? Its an interpretation of English I suppose. But the words all mean different things, and well its a good example of extream acts of wrongness in languagification. http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/jbc/home/chef.html[^]


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                                    Giles wrote: _http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/jbc/home/chef.html\[^\]_ That site's very unresponsive!

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                                      Bob Stanneveld wrote: I put the emphasis on the 'o' like iron. But then it'll resemble ion, won't it?

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                                      No, you still hear the 'r'. It's like in the word featuring, where you don't put the emphasis on the r, but you still hear it when you prenounce the word. Behind every great black man...             ... is the police. - Conspiracy brother Blog[^]

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                                        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: That's ironic. Ouch!!!

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                                        If you think that's irony, then you must subscribe to the Alanis Morissette interpretation of irony. Matt Gerrans

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                                        • C CP Visitor

                                          Christian Graus wrote: On another front I was listening to a German metal band yesterday and they have a song called 'Iron Force', but every time he sings it, he emphasises the r in 'iron'. It made me laugh, anyhow. The singer of a metal band doesn't know how to pronounce 'Iron Maiden'??? :omg:

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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          ROTFL - that's a good point, I didn't think of that. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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