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  • D DaveX86

    Might be a dumb question but why can't you do your Linux development in Visual Studio?

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    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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    For fear of misunderstanding the question, I'm giving you two answers. 1. My work is a combination of Javascript, Java, C++, Cython and PHP. Javascript is the only one that I know of that can be developed on VS. 2. VS doesn't run on Linux unless under a VM or WINE

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    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

      I'm a very big fan of VIM/GVIM

      Same here.

      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

      Eclipse bites (sorry Rama, I tried the latest and it still sucks) YMMV

      Agree here as well, but eclim[^] looks interesting. Haven't tried it though.

      utf8-cpp

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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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      NICE! Now that's something I can sink my teeth into! I'll look at today and report back what I find. Thanks Nermanja :)

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      • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

        I actually downloaded it earlier and fired it up but still haven't put it through its paces. I'll do so tonight

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        Bassam Abdul Baki
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        If editors will suffice, take a look at UltraEdit for Linux[^].

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        • B Bassam Abdul Baki

          If editors will suffice, take a look at UltraEdit for Linux[^].

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          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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          I had that placed last because I'd have to pay for it. UE is possibly the best editor (after VIM) in existence. غير هيك , شو؟ وينك غاطس ما حدا شايفك؟ كيف أخبارك يا معلم؟ :)

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          • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

            I had that placed last because I'd have to pay for it. UE is possibly the best editor (after VIM) in existence. غير هيك , شو؟ وينك غاطس ما حدا شايفك؟ كيف أخبارك يا معلم؟ :)

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            Bassam Abdul Baki
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            Was never a VIM fan. I've been using UE for almost a decade now. .مش عم زور كود بروجكت إكتير هل ايام. أنا على فيسبوك دايماً :)

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            • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

              For fear of misunderstanding the question, I'm giving you two answers. 1. My work is a combination of Javascript, Java, C++, Cython and PHP. Javascript is the only one that I know of that can be developed on VS. 2. VS doesn't run on Linux unless under a VM or WINE

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              DaveX86
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              ...you can develop for PHP in Visual Studio with VS.PHP[^] ...why use Java at all if you can get .Net goodness with Mono? :) ...never heard of Cython...Python derivative? ...Grasshopper[^] seems to let you develop for Java for Linux in Visual Studio

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              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                I'm a very big fan of VIM/GVIM and my .vimrc file has been quite heavily customized to suit my programming needs. However, there comes the time when you need a good IDE as much as the need for a lightweight [primarily] text editor.

                • Eclipse bites (sorry Rama, I tried the latest and it still sucks) YMMV.
                • Aptana is Eclipse in a banana skin (as opposed to a wolf in a sheep's skin...)
                • Netbeans 6.8 is actually quite decent, though, and this is by feel only with no concrete data, feels sluggish at times.
                • Geany is just a glorified text editor.
                • gedit/gPHPedit is not bad, VIM is better though.
                • I'm liking the beta of Jetbrains Webstorm[^]. Quite a nice IDE and so far my favorite on Linux (but its Java and platform independent but quite good actually)

                If you can offer some more suggestions, I'd be very grateful.

                If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                Pete OHanlon
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                Real men, the outdoors types, work in vi. I miss some of the things I used to be able to do in vi.

                "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                  Was never a VIM fan. I've been using UE for almost a decade now. .مش عم زور كود بروجكت إكتير هل ايام. أنا على فيسبوك دايماً :)

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                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                  إيه عال. ضيفنا لكن يا زلمه m dot i dot mustafa at gmail dot com

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                  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                    إيه عال. ضيفنا لكن يا زلمه m dot i dot mustafa at gmail dot com

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                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                    Change of work and online friends and family has caused me to shift my focus elsewhere. :) b no dot abdul no hyphen baki at gmail dot com

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                    • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                      I'm a very big fan of VIM/GVIM and my .vimrc file has been quite heavily customized to suit my programming needs. However, there comes the time when you need a good IDE as much as the need for a lightweight [primarily] text editor.

                      • Eclipse bites (sorry Rama, I tried the latest and it still sucks) YMMV.
                      • Aptana is Eclipse in a banana skin (as opposed to a wolf in a sheep's skin...)
                      • Netbeans 6.8 is actually quite decent, though, and this is by feel only with no concrete data, feels sluggish at times.
                      • Geany is just a glorified text editor.
                      • gedit/gPHPedit is not bad, VIM is better though.
                      • I'm liking the beta of Jetbrains Webstorm[^]. Quite a nice IDE and so far my favorite on Linux (but its Java and platform independent but quite good actually)

                      If you can offer some more suggestions, I'd be very grateful.

                      If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                      Eclipse bites

                      If not for Java development yes, it might.

                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                      Aptana

                      Aptana was the only IDE for a long time where JavaScript Intellisense actually worked correctly. It can recognize Prototype, ExtJs and jQuery. I used Aptana on windows to some extent to write JavaScript code even though I had VS 2008.

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        Real men, the outdoors types, work in vi. I miss some of the things I used to be able to do in vi.

                        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                        Ah vi! That's going back a while!

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                        • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                          إيه عال. ضيفنا لكن يا زلمه m dot i dot mustafa at gmail dot com

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                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                          Steve?

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                          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                            Steve?

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                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                            Yeah? My full name on my Jordanian passport is "Steve-Mustafa Ismail Mustafa" and on my Canadian is "Steve Mustafa". Comes with the territory of being a half-breed :) بعدين الصلعة مبينة عربية :)

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                            • D DaveX86

                              ...you can develop for PHP in Visual Studio with VS.PHP[^] ...why use Java at all if you can get .Net goodness with Mono? :) ...never heard of Cython...Python derivative? ...Grasshopper[^] seems to let you develop for Java for Linux in Visual Studio

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                              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                              Well, I'm not too sure about VS.PHP and I don't know of a single commercial grade application that's been written in Mono; till then its still amateur stuff as far as work is concerned. Cython is THE standard Python dialect :) Grasshopper. We tried it a few years back and it wasn't so hot. Frankly, cross compiling like that is akin to a cross-dresser, crossing back to "normal" by wearing their clothes backwards and upside down. Cannot be comfortable. I'd rather code it directly. But thanks in every case :)

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                              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                Yeah? My full name on my Jordanian passport is "Steve-Mustafa Ismail Mustafa" and on my Canadian is "Steve Mustafa". Comes with the territory of being a half-breed :) بعدين الصلعة مبينة عربية :)

                                If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                بعدين الصلعة مبينة عربية

                                That explains it.

                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                Comes with the territory of being a half-breed

                                I take it your dad is Jordanian and your mom is?

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                                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                  بعدين الصلعة مبينة عربية

                                  That explains it.

                                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                  Comes with the territory of being a half-breed

                                  I take it your dad is Jordanian and your mom is?

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                                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                  Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                  I take it your dad is Jordanian and your mom is?

                                  بابا فلسطيني مجنس أردني و من أهلو لاجئين بلبنان )صيدا ' بس مش عين الحلوة( و ماما كندية من أصل لبناني بس كندية أكتر فبتلائي كتير من أرايبيني "بيض" و أنجلو-ساكسون I'm surprised you didn't know... its been mentioned often enough here. I have a question. UBMC? University of "the Bridges of Madison County" ? I laughed when I read that :)

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                                  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                    I take it your dad is Jordanian and your mom is?

                                    بابا فلسطيني مجنس أردني و من أهلو لاجئين بلبنان )صيدا ' بس مش عين الحلوة( و ماما كندية من أصل لبناني بس كندية أكتر فبتلائي كتير من أرايبيني "بيض" و أنجلو-ساكسون I'm surprised you didn't know... its been mentioned often enough here. I have a question. UBMC? University of "the Bridges of Madison County" ? I laughed when I read that :)

                                    If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                    I may have read it, but it's been a while since I came here regularly. UMBC stands for U Must Be Crazy, and I was. :)

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                      Eclipse bites

                                      If not for Java development yes, it might.

                                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                      Aptana

                                      Aptana was the only IDE for a long time where JavaScript Intellisense actually worked correctly. It can recognize Prototype, ExtJs and jQuery. I used Aptana on windows to some extent to write JavaScript code even though I had VS 2008.

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                                      Alexander DiMauro
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                                      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                      Aptana was the only IDE for a long time where JavaScript Intellisense actually worked correctly. It can recognize Prototype, ExtJs and jQuery. I used Aptana on windows to some extent to write JavaScript code even though I had VS 2008.

                                      I agree, I still use Aptana today for (X)HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. Once I get the UI laid out, I port it over to Visual Studio. Of course, the real power of Aptana does not come from Aptana itself, but the Zen Coding plug-in[^]. If you can find it for your IDE, not THAT is what I HIGHLY recommend...

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                                      • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                        I'm a very big fan of VIM/GVIM and my .vimrc file has been quite heavily customized to suit my programming needs. However, there comes the time when you need a good IDE as much as the need for a lightweight [primarily] text editor.

                                        • Eclipse bites (sorry Rama, I tried the latest and it still sucks) YMMV.
                                        • Aptana is Eclipse in a banana skin (as opposed to a wolf in a sheep's skin...)
                                        • Netbeans 6.8 is actually quite decent, though, and this is by feel only with no concrete data, feels sluggish at times.
                                        • Geany is just a glorified text editor.
                                        • gedit/gPHPedit is not bad, VIM is better though.
                                        • I'm liking the beta of Jetbrains Webstorm[^]. Quite a nice IDE and so far my favorite on Linux (but its Java and platform independent but quite good actually)

                                        If you can offer some more suggestions, I'd be very grateful.

                                        If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                        Squirrel Hacker
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                                        Surprised that no one has mentioned Netbeans...

                                        Squirrel Hacker

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                                        • S Squirrel Hacker

                                          Surprised that no one has mentioned Netbeans...

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                                          CurtainDog
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                                          It was mentioned in the original post... but yes, netbeans is quite good and has improved by leaps and bound in recent iterations. For Java development Eclipse is still king, but you need to set aside half a day to get it set up. I use Netbeans for PHP and Javascript and it's usable right out of the box. (I have only run these two under Windows though so YMMV)

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