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  • D Dave Kreskowiak

    It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

    1
    11
    21
    1211
    111221
    312211

    The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

    System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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    340472211484 approx (via log extrapolation)

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      The spec isn't clear! Send it back! :wtf: As this is, in essence, a compression algorithm, at line 8->9 (according to the OEIS) I would do:

      1113213211

      11 132132 11 <== three subsequences

      21 2132 21 <== three outputs, eight digits

      Which is shorter than their naive result of:

      1113213211

      111 3 2 1 3 2 11 <== seven subsequences

      31 13 12 11 13 12 21 <== seven outputs, fourteen digits

      A 40% saving. The complexity of the algorithm increases due to seeking how to split the input into the fewest subsequences of some repetition length (1 in the naive implementation).

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      When in the :elephant: is the spec Everclear[^] ? Project Euler specs aren't clear either. We always have to do the best we can with what we've got. :-D

      1113213211

      11 132132 11 <== 13?

      21 132132 21 <== three outputs, eight digits

      What happened to the 13? The output looks like it should be 10 digits, not 8.

      1113213211

      111 32132 11

      31 32132 21 <== if I understand what you're trying to do

      There seems to a problem with representation. How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

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        340472211484 approx (via log extrapolation)

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        Dave Kreskowiak
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        Nope, not even close.

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        • D Dave Kreskowiak

          When in the :elephant: is the spec Everclear[^] ? Project Euler specs aren't clear either. We always have to do the best we can with what we've got. :-D

          1113213211

          11 132132 11 <== 13?

          21 132132 21 <== three outputs, eight digits

          What happened to the 13? The output looks like it should be 10 digits, not 8.

          1113213211

          111 32132 11

          31 32132 21 <== if I understand what you're trying to do

          There seems to a problem with representation. How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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          Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

          What happened to the 13?

          There are 2 132s , hence 2132.

          Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

          How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

          Doesn't matter, but internally (if I write it) it would be in the data structure. It just wouldn't be apparent in the output unless you want it.

          (1,1)
          (2,1)
          ...
          (2,1),(2,132),(2,1)
          ...

          The question is about only the number of digits.

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            340472211484 approx (via log extrapolation)

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            What base? The length is 10 -- in some base I haven't determined yet.

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            • D Dave Kreskowiak

              It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

              1
              11
              21
              1211
              111221
              312211

              The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

              System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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              Kenneth Haugland
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              So I stored booleans in a file:

              string Morris(int S, int N)
              {
              string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\..\..\");
              using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
              {
              writer.Write(S > 2);
              writer.Write(S == 2);
              }

                      for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                      {
                          Debug.WriteLine(i+1);
              
                          using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                          {
                              int count = 1;
                              bool currMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                              bool currLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
              
                              bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
              
                              using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                              {
                                  while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                                  {
                                      nextMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                      nextLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
              
                                      if ((currMSB == nextMSB) && (currLSB == nextLSB))
                                      {
                                          count++;
                                      }
                                      else
                                      {
                                          writer.Write(count > 2);
                                          writer.Write(count == 2);
                                          writer.Write(currMSB);
                                          writer.Write(currLSB);
              
                                          currMSB = nextMSB;
                                          currLSB = nextLSB;
                                          count = 1;
                                      }
              
                                  }
                                  writer.Write(count > 2);
                                  writer.Write(count == 2);
                                  writer.Write(currMSB);
                                  writer.Write(currLSB);
                              }
                          }
              
                          File.Delete(projectPath + "input.txt");
                          System.IO.File.Copy(projectPath + "output.txt", projectPath + "input.txt");
                          System.IO.File.WriteAllText(projectPath + "output.txt", string.Empty);
                      }
              
              
                      StringBuilder output = new StringBuilder();
                      using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Ope
              
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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                What happened to the 13?

                There are 2 132s , hence 2132.

                Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                How do you tell the difference between single values and a run length value?

                Doesn't matter, but internally (if I write it) it would be in the data structure. It just wouldn't be apparent in the output unless you want it.

                (1,1)
                (2,1)
                ...
                (2,1),(2,132),(2,1)
                ...

                The question is about only the number of digits.

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                Ah, OK. I missed that. Hmmm. In my implementation, I wrote up a reader/writer that takes care of the "on the fly". This would make an interesting, and challenging, implementation to write. I'll have to look into trying this next weekend. My current implementation writes all the data but there is an option to convert the data to a human-readable format. Not that you'd want to see thousands of pages of 1's, 2's, and 3's, but it did come in handy for analysis when experimenting with implementations.

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                • K Kenneth Haugland

                  So I stored booleans in a file:

                  string Morris(int S, int N)
                  {
                  string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\..\..\");
                  using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                  {
                  writer.Write(S > 2);
                  writer.Write(S == 2);
                  }

                          for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                          {
                              Debug.WriteLine(i+1);
                  
                              using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                              {
                                  int count = 1;
                                  bool currMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                  bool currLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                  
                                  bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
                  
                                  using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                                  {
                                      while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                                      {
                                          nextMSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                                          nextLSB = reader.ReadBoolean();
                  
                                          if ((currMSB == nextMSB) && (currLSB == nextLSB))
                                          {
                                              count++;
                                          }
                                          else
                                          {
                                              writer.Write(count > 2);
                                              writer.Write(count == 2);
                                              writer.Write(currMSB);
                                              writer.Write(currLSB);
                  
                                              currMSB = nextMSB;
                                              currLSB = nextLSB;
                                              count = 1;
                                          }
                  
                                      }
                                      writer.Write(count > 2);
                                      writer.Write(count == 2);
                                      writer.Write(currMSB);
                                      writer.Write(currLSB);
                                  }
                              }
                  
                              File.Delete(projectPath + "input.txt");
                              System.IO.File.Copy(projectPath + "output.txt", projectPath + "input.txt");
                              System.IO.File.WriteAllText(projectPath + "output.txt", string.Empty);
                          }
                  
                  
                          StringBuilder output = new StringBuilder();
                          using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Ope
                  
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                  Interesting but I question if this is actually writing one byte per value? Don't have time to test right now.

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                  • D Dave Kreskowiak

                    It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                    1
                    11
                    21
                    1211
                    111221
                    312211

                    The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                    System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                    My instant impression of it is that there has to be a better way than brute force: there's something very Fibonacci-sequence-like about the output... in my head, I can almost predict the pattern from one iteration to the next, without trying to describe anything... if only I had better coffee... if only Dijkstra were still alive... damn it: now you've got me interested.

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                    • D Dave Kreskowiak

                      Interesting but I question if this is actually writing one byte per value? Don't have time to test right now.

                      System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                      Kenneth Haugland
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                      I suspect that it is using a byte for each boolean value. As per the usual answers: Why is a boolean 4 bytes in .NET? - Stack Overflow[^] I could store them in a BitVector32 or a BitArray and write that to the file, but I don't have the time to implement it now.

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                      • K Kenneth Haugland

                        I suspect that it is using a byte for each boolean value. As per the usual answers: Why is a boolean 4 bytes in .NET? - Stack Overflow[^] I could store them in a BitVector32 or a BitArray and write that to the file, but I don't have the time to implement it now.

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                        I tried doing this in a BitArray, but found it to be limited in flexibility and performance. This was about 10 years that I originally worked on this problem. I was doing some cleaning around the drive to get rid of old stuff and ran into the project. Then, of course, I just had to run it again and maybe update the code a little bit. :)

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                          My instant impression of it is that there has to be a better way than brute force: there's something very Fibonacci-sequence-like about the output... in my head, I can almost predict the pattern from one iteration to the next, without trying to describe anything... if only I had better coffee... if only Dijkstra were still alive... damn it: now you've got me interested.

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                          I know there has to be a better way to do it because I did find a list that gave the lengths for the first 3000 numbers in the sequence. Let's just say there are more digits in the 3000th number than there are atoms in the observable universe. I'll post the answer and the length of #3000 Monday morning. It does make for any interesting problem!

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                          • D Dave Kreskowiak

                            I know there has to be a better way to do it because I did find a list that gave the lengths for the first 3000 numbers in the sequence. Let's just say there are more digits in the 3000th number than there are atoms in the observable universe. I'll post the answer and the length of #3000 Monday morning. It does make for any interesting problem!

                            System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                            finished computation at Fri Dec 1 16:48:41 2017
                            elapsed time: 7205.75secs

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                            • D Dave Kreskowiak

                              It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                              1
                              11
                              21
                              1211
                              111221
                              312211

                              The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                              System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
                              Dave Kreskowiak

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                              :elephant: OK, I'll see how far I get doing it "my way" -- but I'll address the more general problem, allowing the starting input to be more than one symbol and not limited to the symbols 1, 2, and 3. Also, allowing the caller to specify the maximum subsequence length -- that'll be the hard part. I think the only alcohol in the place is one shot of tequila; it will have to be enough. Sunday morning update: By midnight I had the basic functionality (subsequence lengths 0 and 1) working and tested -- but using a List<T> which means that there are allocation issues. This morning's immediate goal -- implement a SegmentedList<T> class. Sunday afternoon update: The SegmentedList<T> is working well, and it allows for multiple threads for improved speed.

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                              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                I tried doing this in a BitArray, but found it to be limited in flexibility and performance. This was about 10 years that I originally worked on this problem. I was doing some cleaning around the drive to get rid of old stuff and ran into the project. Then, of course, I just had to run it again and maybe update the code a little bit. :)

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                                They definitely store the booleans as bytes. I ran this:

                                string MorrisBitVector32(int S, int N)
                                {
                                //Need the mask for accessing the individual bits
                                int[] _masks = new int[32];
                                {
                                _masks[0] = BitVector32.CreateMask();
                                }
                                for (int i = 1; i < 32; i++)
                                {
                                _masks[i] = BitVector32.CreateMask(_masks[i - 1]);
                                }

                                        //Hopefully setes the path to the project folder
                                        string projectPath = System.IO.Path.GetFullPath(@"..\\..\\..\\");
                                
                                
                                        using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                                        {
                                            BitVector32 v = new BitVector32();
                                            // Standard 3 = 11, 2=10,1=01 and 
                                            // 00 is not more numbers in this BitVector32
                                            v\[\_masks\[0\]\] = S >= 2;
                                            v\[\_masks\[1\]\] = S != 2;
                                            //Writes a 32bit integer to the file
                                            writer.Write(v.Data);
                                        }
                                
                                
                                        for (int i = 1; i < N; i++)
                                        {
                                            Debug.WriteLine(i + 1);
                                
                                            using (BinaryReader reader = new BinaryReader(File.Open(projectPath + "input.txt", FileMode.Open)))
                                            {
                                                // Initiates variables for each N run
                                                bool currMSB, currLSB, firstRun;
                                                firstRun = true;
                                                currMSB = false;
                                                currLSB = false;
                                                int count = 0;
                                                int k = 0;
                                                BitVector32 outputBits = new BitVector32();
                                
                                                using (BinaryWriter writer = new BinaryWriter(File.Open(projectPath + "output.txt", FileMode.Create)))
                                                {
                                
                                                    while (reader.BaseStream.Position != reader.BaseStream.Length)
                                                    {
                                                        BitVector32 inputBits = new BitVector32(reader.ReadInt32());
                                                        if (firstRun)
                                                        {
                                                            count = 1;
                                                            currMSB = inputBits\[\_masks\[0\]\];
                                                            currLSB = inputBits\[\_masks\[1\]\];                                
                                                        }
                                
                                
                                                        bool nextMSB, nextLSB;
                                                        for (int j = (firstRun ? 2 : 0); j < 32; j += 2)
                                                        {
                                                            nextMSB = inputBits\[\_ma
                                
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                                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                  Nope, not even close.

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                                  After a bit more fiddling:

                                  Test length 48 th : 526646 526,646
                                  Test length 49 th : 686646 686,646
                                  Test length 50 th : 894810 894,810
                                  51st length : 1,166,642
                                  52nd length : 1,521,070
                                  53rd length : 1,983,164
                                  54th length : 2,585,639
                                  55th length : 3,371,142
                                  56th length : 4,395,278
                                  57th length : 5,730,540
                                  58th length : 7,471,449
                                  59th length : 9,741,236
                                  60th length : 12,700,573
                                  61st length : 16,558,941
                                  62nd length : 21,589,461
                                  63rd length : 28,148,228
                                  64th length : 36,699,513
                                  65th length : 47,848,635
                                  66th length : 62,384,802
                                  67th length : 81,336,981
                                  68th length : 106,046,733
                                  69th length : 138,263,181
                                  70th length : 180,266,818
                                  71st length : 235,030,941
                                  72nd length : 306,432,122
                                  73rd length : 399,524,610
                                  74th length : 520,898,113
                                  75th length : 679,144,257
                                  76th length : 885,464,758
                                  77th length : 1,154,464,356
                                  78th length : 1,505,184,637
                                  79th length : 1,962,451,918
                                  80th length : 2,558,634,627
                                  81st length : 3,335,934,550
                                  82nd length : 4,349,374,155
                                  83rd length : 5,670,691,453
                                  84th length : 7,393,418,089
                                  85th length : 9,639,500,137
                                  86th length : 12,567,930,256
                                  87th length : 16,386,002,249
                                  88th length : 21,363,984,700
                                  89th length : 27,854,252,387
                                  90th length : 36,316,229,718
                                  91st length : 47,348,911,849
                                  92nd length : 61,733,265,560
                                  93rd length : 80,487,511,283
                                  94th length : 104,939,199,534
                                  95th length : 136,819,183,789
                                  96th length : 178,384,141,824
                                  97th length : 232,576,318,416
                                  98th length : 303,231,797,036
                                  99th length : 395,352,043,407
                                  100th length : 515,457,942,582

                                  Regards , R

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                                    It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                                    1
                                    11
                                    21
                                    1211
                                    111221
                                    312211

                                    The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                                    System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                                    Since the only requirement was to determine the length, it is not necessary to store the full string. A simple 100 level recursion that, at each level, returns the next digit in sequence suffices - it takes a long time to run, but does not need huge amounts of space. At each level above the first it is only necessary to store at most two digits - the digit of which you have just counted the repetitions, and the digit that broke the sequence. Each invocation at any level alternates between returning the count and returning the counted digit.

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                                      After a bit more fiddling:

                                      Test length 48 th : 526646 526,646
                                      Test length 49 th : 686646 686,646
                                      Test length 50 th : 894810 894,810
                                      51st length : 1,166,642
                                      52nd length : 1,521,070
                                      53rd length : 1,983,164
                                      54th length : 2,585,639
                                      55th length : 3,371,142
                                      56th length : 4,395,278
                                      57th length : 5,730,540
                                      58th length : 7,471,449
                                      59th length : 9,741,236
                                      60th length : 12,700,573
                                      61st length : 16,558,941
                                      62nd length : 21,589,461
                                      63rd length : 28,148,228
                                      64th length : 36,699,513
                                      65th length : 47,848,635
                                      66th length : 62,384,802
                                      67th length : 81,336,981
                                      68th length : 106,046,733
                                      69th length : 138,263,181
                                      70th length : 180,266,818
                                      71st length : 235,030,941
                                      72nd length : 306,432,122
                                      73rd length : 399,524,610
                                      74th length : 520,898,113
                                      75th length : 679,144,257
                                      76th length : 885,464,758
                                      77th length : 1,154,464,356
                                      78th length : 1,505,184,637
                                      79th length : 1,962,451,918
                                      80th length : 2,558,634,627
                                      81st length : 3,335,934,550
                                      82nd length : 4,349,374,155
                                      83rd length : 5,670,691,453
                                      84th length : 7,393,418,089
                                      85th length : 9,639,500,137
                                      86th length : 12,567,930,256
                                      87th length : 16,386,002,249
                                      88th length : 21,363,984,700
                                      89th length : 27,854,252,387
                                      90th length : 36,316,229,718
                                      91st length : 47,348,911,849
                                      92nd length : 61,733,265,560
                                      93rd length : 80,487,511,283
                                      94th length : 104,939,199,534
                                      95th length : 136,819,183,789
                                      96th length : 178,384,141,824
                                      97th length : 232,576,318,416
                                      98th length : 303,231,797,036
                                      99th length : 395,352,043,407
                                      100th length : 515,457,942,582

                                      Regards , R

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                                      Wrong again!

                                      System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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                                        Since the only requirement was to determine the length, it is not necessary to store the full string. A simple 100 level recursion that, at each level, returns the next digit in sequence suffices - it takes a long time to run, but does not need huge amounts of space. At each level above the first it is only necessary to store at most two digits - the digit of which you have just counted the repetitions, and the digit that broke the sequence. Each invocation at any level alternates between returning the count and returning the counted digit.

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                                        I didn't follow that.

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                                          It's also known as the Conway Sequence, Look and Say Sequence, and probably some others. It's rather simple. Start with a 1 and then describe what you see for the next iteration. So, starting at 1, the next number is one 1 (11), the next is two 1 (21), then one 2 one 1 (1211), and so on:

                                          1
                                          11
                                          21
                                          1211
                                          111221
                                          312211

                                          The question to answer is what's the length in digits of the 100th number in the chain, starting with "1" as the first? The first six numbers have been given above. You could write it out by hand, but I wouldn't recommend it, and as developers, that's not what we do. The seemingly simple challenge is to write the code to come up with the answer. The only hint you get is the 50th number is 894,810 digits long. Oh, and don't bother Googling for code. Those examples will only get you so far and definitely won't get you to the answer.

                                          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
                                          Dave Kreskowiak

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                                          The answer for the length of the 100th number is 511,247,092,564 digits. The length escalates frighteningly quickly. The LENGTH of the 3000th number in the chain is, get this, 4029857719515768641307384677908679928310793769651641917926155107836565892187598804862177357001771122238068645667821323998368650130801806344030981271295995422208436642014734696538407619447946889047668430308242548524802874469136450965097114152481264391293269162985708430576259447637028591596189605329702198409448541645531801518246316682171504624370 digits long. That's not the number. That's how long it is in digits! That's more digits than there are the estimated number of atoms in the observable universe, by many orders of magnitude!

                                          System.ItDidntWorkException: Something didn't work as expected. C# - How to debug code[^]. Seriously, go read these articles.
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