They don't work in all cases. It depends on what you are viewing. I have run into situations where Copy/Paste work when invoked via Edit on the Menu bar, right clicking and select from the Context list and Ctl C/V with standard vanilla text situations or only one or two of the three work or none work. There have been instances of wanting to copy a few lines (such as a tip) from a web page where none of them worked and I end up going to the "source" and copying from there.

First, congratulations on a job well done! Archimedes had the perfect word centuries ago. Eureka - the sudden, unexpected realization of the solution to a problem. You coded a solution to a problem - it ran the first time -- an unexpected realization. Eureka!!!!! :-D

Nicolas Dorier wrote:

on the other hand they make you change your iStuff every year ;)
 
The point is that it is common belief that tablet and phone are replacing computer for the consumers market, but the numbers does not show the computer industry declining at all.
The only imperceptible decline might be attributed to the stupid Windows 8 OS, as when vista released... which was compensated when Windows 7 released in 2009.
 
I feel this is because when people equals "lose of market share" to "selling less", where in reality the pie just become bigger.

Apple makes you change it??? I guess if Gallagher can smash watermelons on your front lawn, Apple can smash apples on your lawn until you are forced to upgrade to their latest toy. http://s.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/smiley\_redface.gif Personally, I still use XP and even DOS and 95 (also Linux). If it "ain't broke, don't fix it"! Unlike what the new CEO did to Yahoo e-mail. What used to work fine is now a disaster. They felt they had to compete with Google by emulating G-Mail. If I wanted to use G-Mail, I would have switched. Now Yahoo is driving me there as at least it works. Back on topic, desktops are not selling like they used to sell. You can achieve pretty much the same thing (in most cases) with a good laptop. And people who bought laptops due to their portability are now buying tablets. Much more convenient (and longer battery usage before recharging). Also, desktops and laptops are lasting longer than in the early days. Even businesses are slow to migrate with many still using XP. Just because Microsoft ends support doesn'r mean XP is going to stop running. Plus many of the non-Microsoft products will continue to run (unless you upgrade, of course). People in the consumer market found out they can do what they need to do with a tablet and not be concerned that its not Windows iPads and Androids get the job done for most home users and for many business users. Of course, if you are developing code, that is another matter. I also wouldn't want to develop a spreadsheet on a tablet or even write a lengthy message (unless I have a small, but usable keyboard).

Moshe Katz wrote:

Shameel wrote:

it shares your personal information with the government

So does Microsoft

Not only Microsoft, but Google and all the others. No such thing as a free lunch - you pay by letting them sell your ID to advertisers. NAI is a joke. You try to opt-out and some let you and others ignore it. What I don't like is they store any opt-out in a cookie instead of a "Do not send" database at the advertiserrs site. Erase the cookie and the opt-out disappears.

Not only Microsoft, but Google and all the others. No such thing as a free lunch - you pay by letting them sell your ID to advertisers. NAI is a joke. You try to opt-out and some let you and others ignore it. What I don't like is they store any opt-out in a cookie instead of a "Do not send" database at the advertiserrs site. Erase the cookie and the opt-out disappears.

Disagree - there is a difference. Developers do more than just write code. As a developer, I took marketing requirements, produced a documented design specifications, and supervised coders (in later years, contractors) who just wrote code and unit tested and fixeed any bugs. I also wrote code too for some pieces. Personally, I don't get hung up on people using the words interchangeably. It is usually the new hires/junior people who are "programmers" and as they gain experience they transition into a developer role. BTW, its not to say that coders/programmers can't provide input and make suggestions. Even the less experienced are capable of seeing something that more experienced may have missed.

Now yuinz sound like yuinz from "southwestern PA", around (or in) Pittsburgh. Now where I grew up, we used to jump into those cricks "yuze guise" thought were too cold. And first day of deer season was a "religious holiday"! Back when the lake froze over, they used to drive model As and Ts to Canada. If they weren't so pathetic now-a-daysl, I'd say "Go Browns"! :laugh:

APL - a man after my own heart. One of the great languages IBM never marketed! So much power in such brief statements. A debt owed to Ken Iverson (Kenneth E. Iverson).

You mean like those old IBM 083s, 084s, etc. and those old IBM 4xxs? Sounds like you are in my category - "older than dirt"! :laugh:

Why you are just a "young buck" :laugh: ! See my post further on down. Autocoder/SPS. You probably used stuff I wrote for the 360! Ah, the "gud ole daze" when 80 - 100 hr weeks (with no O/T pay) were the norm! :laugh:

US English (what is called "Standard American" and Autocoder/SPS (assembler languages) -- long before (for some of you anyway) your daddy was a gleam in his daddy's eye! LOL! :laugh:

Well, I would agree with you on some things, I disagree on Notepadd++. I use it all the time on Linux. Most distros are coming with WINE pre-installed - not that its tough to install. All you need to do is download Notepad++ (Windows version) and open it up and install it, just as you would on Windows. It is not a big deal. It defaults are much the same as on Windows. My beef with Ubuntu came in 11.04 when they had their version of a "Metro" desktop - Unity bites it! They still have problems supporting Broadcom wireless and, I just put it on a jump drive (16GB) and can't get a Linksys adapter to connect (even though NDIS installed the .inf file). Fortunately, I have a Netgear adapter and it connects just fine, but the internal Broadcom, fuhgedaboutit.

I have tried every browser under the sun. IMO, Firefox wins. IE - garbage in, garbage out, or in this case, garbage period - most insecure browser on the planet. Firefox on Linux is much better than Firefox on Windows - hmmmm - wonder why! Chrome, too many short comings. I use Palemoon a lot too - faster than Firefox (on which its based), but run into occasional glitches - I do use a lot of add-ons - one reason I prefer Firefox (and Palemoon) over Chrome and IE - better add-ons. I have tried Safari and am not impressed at all - I put it in the same class as IE ((which can be the worse browser on the internet), however, it may be more secure than IE and not a million patches a month (I know, I am exaggerating - but not far from the truth with security patches coming every week along with the rest of Windows 7 - so much for being more secure). Other browsers I have tried are Firefox based. I do like the array of add-ons with Firefox. Rarely run into one that doesn't work or screw things up. Chrome is another story - while there are a large number, most are crapola IMO. The few that I would have liked to use don't work all that well and, in some cases, not at all. I do like to get into the guts of things at times and Firefox lets me do that better than the others. Oh, left off Opera - which is also good - better than Chrome - although recent versions have left me wondering!

Someone forgot to curb their dog (and left the pickup bag at home)!

I think you pretty much said it all. Tablets do have a use for information retrieval with minimal typing - basically a PIMP (Personal Information Manager Processor). I could also see my wife using one for playing games (but she won't go near a desktop or laptop) - she got hooked on a some handheld games - Freecell, Solitaire, Yahtzee (always find it in the bathroom - so now we take a "Yahtzee"). As far as doing useful work, I can see they are limited compared to a decent size screen and keyboard. With USB sticks and SSDs increasing in memory capacity, plus "instant startup", netbooks and small laptops will not go away. If you consider packing a netbook (and a small mouse) in a brief case or suit case vs a separate keyboard - "chiclet"(?), your tablet, a bottle of Windex, etc., it becomes more convenient to take a single unit with a 64GB or 128GB SSD to take notes and enter data than a tablet. I don't own a tablet either (maybe in a couple of weeks, I'll get an old Android from my younger daughter when we go to visit her and her husband - I always seem to get my kids "hand-me-downs").

Now lets see what was the name of that app again? Man, if I didn't where a name tag, I wouldn't remember my own name. Not sure how well Metro will handle it (I could never get any of the 3 previews to install in a VM with 2MB of memory and a 30GB virtual HD on Win. 7). But running Ubuntu Unity, which does the same thing, I was finding I had to search and search as I either mistyped the name or entered the "wrong name". A lot easier to navigate the drop down menus than to try and remember what something was called - especially if you only use it sporadically.

Then there is something going on as some of us get that error message. It may be some setting, or having to log in someplace or whatever. I tred it again and still get the same error message the others received.

I just tried it to and got the same error.

Then you should read the article in the "CodeProject" newsletter, "The Codeless Code - Koans for the Software Engineer" - "Microsoft’s Downfall: Inside the Executive E-mails and Cannibalistic Culture That Felled a Tech Giant" - http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2012/07/microsoft-downfall-emails-steve-ballmer . The "Start" button appears to be more of the same.

BTW, have you tried WINE, DOSBox and DOS Emulator? Between the three, I find I can run a lot of Windows (and older DOS) programs. There is also a pay version like WINE, (dream something or other) that supports more Windows apps from what I understand.