You're probably right. I'd bet there's 500 classes that do actual work in that thing, and 17,500 classes that individual developers at Facebook wrote as their own personal, preferred wrapper around them. How far from the truth can I be?

Hm, glad I use g++ for my own applications. And as an embedded developer, I really don't have to use VS.

Why would Foxconn buy this? If not to make some Windows Phone themselves... Otherwise they wouldn't really need it, do they? All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

The freedom of financial independence.... http://www.GaspMobileGames.com

Visual Studio allows you to change the code formatting in lots of ways, and even shows you what it will look like.

I was using it, but switched to visual studio code. Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

You're obviously looking in the wrong places. The UK papers had a good and varied crop with Ed Milliband dying his hair blond in order to court fans of Boris Johnson in the upcoming election being my personal favourite with Jeremy Clarkson joining a fossil fuel divestment campaign running it a close second. Surely Nature proving that dragons exist at least tickled your funny bone? No? Well, perhaps you'll find BBC's 10 stories that looked like April Fools but weren't a bit more to your liking then? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-32144005[^]

I can tell you don't do c++ development

In October 2013 the price was 5,250 euro for standard edition (1-9 users) and 9,000 euro for site licence. If you have a problem with the high prices they are more than willing to provide some sort of discount (as they did for us based on the Rand/Euro exchange rate being so high at the time). We use PVS-Studio all the time and it has found many potential bugs in our code. Cheers, Brett

I'm not sure if you are just ranting or actually looking for help. But as this is not a code question you'll likely get better results in a technical support type forum. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

You, Sir, deserve a salute. You took so much pain for a mouse!

My favorite is that a large German ISP was reported to encourage the use of Bittorrent. It should help balance up- and download traffic of end users. Reason was said to be that the copper cables, once planned to transfer analogue voice, suffered from nowadays usual HF transmissions causing the skin effect to concentrate currents in a small area near the cable's surface. The concentration was said to be so intense at 4GHz+ that copper atoms were moved out of their lattice position. The predominant download caused the drift to amass in one direction, degrading signal quality. The ISP had to reverse the most heavily affected cables' direction including a lot of expensive ground digging, so that the same effect restored the original atomic lattice. Process had to be repeated every few years, the report said. Absolutely hilarious. Ciao, luker

Quote: In agile development you'd be the guy in the back that resists change at all cost and denies things without reason. Actually, I am a Certified ScrumMaster and avid agile developer so you are wrong... again. "I rest my case" means I am totally fed up of arguing with a pedantic, fanatical and frankly annoying [expletive deleted]! - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

True that finances can be a limiting factor. But I disagree that a 64 bit system would make it less effective. I would think that an adjusted work flow that is taking advantage of a better system would streamline the process. But of course I do not know the details of the workflow you are referring to. But back to finances. Just because the cash is not there does not change the truth. That being the person/team should be using a 64 bit system (or whatever the "improvement" is). Not having financials to make it happen is not justification it being less effective. It is only justification for cost savings on the end goal. Yes I was not clear about the usage case, but I had thought that was implied from the OP. enhzflep wrote: Have a 5 for the tank question, I'm still grinning! :) Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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I don't really do anything with C/C++, but I have messed with QT and picked it up quite quickly. That was my first experience with C++, so I have to say the framework is very well thought out. Getting information off the Internet is like taking a drink from a fire hydrant. - Mitchell Kapor