Colin Angus Mackay wrote: is it a murdor crime, if a schizophrenic kills himselfe? That would be suicide, not murder. (Are you translating from German?) no, i mean, a schizophrenic has two personalitys. so if one personality kills himself, what is with the other personalyty scio me nihil scire My OpenSource(zlib/libpng License) Engine: http://sourceforge.net/projects/rendertech Its incurable, its a Pentium division failure.