code-frog wrote: Man, I'm wiping tears from my eyes... Tears of jealousy. Where I live you might here the mating calls of chipmunks and the occassional democrat Democrats are known for their sex drive. It scares me to even think of what they can do with small animals. code-frog wrote: The only males that tend to fight around here are red necks and it's usually just over the last beer or female tough to say . Not unlike the elephants except that the elephants do not have the advantage of beer muscles. code-frog wrote: we were camping up in northern Idaho and a black panther came into our campsite. Way too much contact with humans. The universal wild animal deterrent is a fire. You didn't mention if you had a campfire (what camping trip would be complete without one) but if it came into your campsite then it is was a very dangerous animal. code-frog wrote: My dad knew he had 3 young kids that would probably taste good so he grabs a chefs knife and crawls out the tent trailer door on his belly in his tidy whities. Too bad you don't have a picture of that you could share with us. code-frog wrote: He's gone for what seems like hours and comes back announcing it won't be a threat anymore. To this day I don't know what he did (I need to ask) Please share it with me when you do find out what happened. It has to be an interesting story. My cousin recently had an encounter with a mountain lion at his house in Western North Carolina. He went into his garage and heard this strange muffled howling sound. Looking under his truck, where the noise was coming from, he saw a mountain lion which was starting to emerge in a hunched position like you see a house cat assume just before pouncing on a mouse or other pray. He took an industrial broom, (the type with a wooden head parallel to the ground with stout bristles sticking out, not your garden variety kitchen broom) and whacked the cat in the head. It ran out and hid under his porch so he went inside the house and came out with a pellet gun. He shot the cat and it ran off into the forest, he lives on the side of a hill in the Blue Ridge Mountain Range. Notice I said hill because the East Coast doesn’t really have mountains comparable with the Rockies. He reported it to the local forest rangers who were concerned because it was very unusual behavior for a mountain lion

ahz wrote: hey a$$hole, you're assuming an awful lot about me. You neither know me nor my experience. Did you get up and find your bed wet again this morning? Your right I was just deducing from what you were saying. You were sounding like a rank ameture. ahz wrote: Fact is I've been using windows (and programming for windows) since before you were in diapers Very presumptious on your part. Just how old are you? ahz wrote: I've shipped plenty of products Just didn't sound like you have any experience from your post. ahz wrote: I don't work for M$ Sounds like you should. ahz wrote: nor do I have a lovefest for them Sounded like you did. ahz wrote: Fact is there is plenty to dislike about windows and M$, but for Roger to say that M$ has never shipped a working product is pure anit-M$ bull-effing-sheeeeit! I don't want to speak for Rodger but I would wadger a bet he was saying that with toung in cheek. A point you obviously have missed. Not all of us are as anal as you are. Sometimes the the butt of our jokes (that was an attempt at a pun so don't take it personally) are the people or things we love or in this case love to hate. ahz wrote: Yeah, Roger is entitled to his opinion, and I'm entitled to my opinion of his opinion and of a$$holes like you. That's BitchyA$$hole to you. ahz wrote: So F U C K O F F! In civilized company we say "F^ck off please". It is not polite to SHOUT! P.S. – for all you anal retentive folks out there tempted to comment on my spelling or grammar save your energy. I don’t care. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

Lesson 1: Not all people are men. I know that it comes as a suprise to you but sometimes the best "man" for the job is a woman. That's 82,598,400 man person hours, 3,441,600 man person days, or 9,429 man person years! This would be a good start. P.S. – for all you anal retentive folks out there tempted to comment on my spelling or grammar save your energy. I don’t care. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

David Wulff wrote: and ignoring the testers Are you delusional, what testers? By the way that is mythical person days. Do I have to teach you how to be politically correct?:rolleyes: P.S. – for all you anal retentive folks out there tempted to comment on my spelling or grammar save your energy. I don’t care. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

ahz wrote: Give me a break. What Anti-M$ Bullshize! Another Micro$ucks apologist heard from. Are you all shills that get paid out of Redmond? If Mickey$oft worked as hard on putting out a quality product as they do on marketing they would be respected by now and wouldn't have to hire the likes of you. The guy is intitled to his opinion whether you agrree with him or not. He is actually talking from experience and not just spouting evangilistic bullcrap. Have you ever produced a professional product? Rodger has and he is entitled to his opinion, so keep your cake hole shut until you have half the professional experience he has. By then you will realize that other, more experienced people, may not be fooled into thinking everything that comes in a bright and shiny box has value. P.S. – for all you anal retentive folks out there tempted to comment on my spelling or grammar save your energy. I don’t care. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

Good one!:) P.S. – for all you anal retentive folks out there tempted to comment on my spelling or grammar save your energy. I don’t care. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

Roger Wright wrote: code-frog wrote: Longest single file captured by Windows Movie Maker: 114 hours Heck, that's about how long it took to download the 4.01 revision of IE4. Worse still, Visual Studio (last time I installed it) requires the installation of an obsolete version of IE. I know that the people at Microsoft are mostly brilliant, hard-working technocrats, and I love them for that. But I'm still waiting for the day when they will release a product that actually works. The last I can recall was DOS 2.o. That's not a good trend... You get a 5 for this one. P.S. – for all you anal retentive folks out there tempted to comment on my spelling or grammar save your energy. I don’t care. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

Matt Newman wrote: I thought the # was just a cool way of drawing two +'s # => ++ so ## => ++++ Matt Gerrans wrote: Look more closely. Obviously I am missing something. P.S. – for all you anal retentive folks out there tempted to comment on my spelling or grammar save your energy. I don’t care. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

Matt Gerrans wrote: Wouldn't it be C++++ in that case? Only if you write C## Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

Matt Newman wrote: OMG are you serious?!?!?! I thought the # was just a cool way of drawing two +'s :laugh: Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

Weiye Chen wrote: I think we should act agressive, monsterous, violent, etc When have humans acted otherwise?:confused: P.S. – for all you anal retentive folks out there tempted to comment on my spelling or grammar save your energy. I don’t care. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

code-frog wrote: H@c%erB!tch wrote: If I told you I was living in Botswana would you believe me? At this point yes. I have two words to describe the place Okavango Delta. It is one of the last places on earth, even in Africa, where you actually experience what it was like to live on the planet thousands of years ago. Too many other places tout their National Parks and when you get there you travel on paved roads, scenic views are ruined by distant power lines, etc. In the Okavango Delta you will not see any of that and if you listen closely, and know what you are listening for, it is not unusual to hear lions talking to each other, they make coughing sounds, in that clump of trees right over there. Obviously, you don't go investigate. When you are lying in your tent at night you hear leopard sounds in the night, and I was lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time during mating season, elephants fighting. Elephants fighting are one of the most awesome things I have ever heard. Trees actually get knocked over. We went out to get a closer look but had to beat a hasty retreat when a third male trumpeted his candidacy from behind us. It would have been interesting but possibly fatal to stay where we were so we checked out the carnage after the contest was settled. Wilderbeast stampeeds are also awesome. code-frog wrote: I'm way to Idaho to know very much about anything outside of this country. Did you say Iowa? Just joking. I once suggested that a fellow from Idaho that he was from Cornstalk, Iowa and that folks who live in places where people outnumber livestock might think a bit differently then him. His reply was a classic. code-frog wrote: I have tons of people asking me for feedback on stuff before they invest. So I have to stay current. Thankfully MSDN Universal keeps all the bases covered and will included Vista and all the other 2005 products. I, for one, would appreciate your opinion about Vista and, especially, VS2005 when you get a chance to give them a try. code-frog wrote: wussey-butt-kissing-corporate-lip-sucking-dogs :omg::wtf::rolleyes::laugh: P.S. – for all you anal retentive folks out there tempted to comment on my spelling or grammar save your energy. I don’t care. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

:| I was hoping to find a yawn but unimpressed will have to do. P.S. – for all you anal retentive folks out there tempted to comment on my spelling or grammar save your energy. I don’t care. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

First, let me respond to your previous post. Thank you for actually reading what I say. Too many people take a disliking to me based on my on-line persona, self professed b!tch, and can not get over it enough to actually read what I am saying, thus the post script waving them off before they send some drivel about how I misspelled something or my grammar is not right. It is pretty amazing how they like to attack you personally because they don’t like the way you say something. I have since put that statement in my signature and am putting the morons on notice if they comment about my spelling or grammar, and not the points I am trying to make, I will flame them in return. I believe that there is room for many different opinions about things. If we all thought the same there would be no point in discussing things, and life would be pretty boring. I have read the things you say to a lot of people and think that your technical advice is excellent. I agree with some of your personal opinions, on other than technical matters, and disagree with others. That’s what makes us all different. As you may have surmised I like diversity. As far as VS2005 is concerned, I do not know if I will ever actually use it. I passed on the opportunity to purchase VS.NET & VS2002 because, in my opinion, they were not mature enough as a product for my liking. As you well know Visual Studio is quite expensive. If I am going to part with that much cash it will be for something that I deem will give me return for my money, as in having a paying client that needs some feature not in VS2003. I was using VS6 until last year and it still works fine for non .Net applications but even I see the need to provide solutions using the new architecture eventually, so I went out and purchased VS2003. If VS2005 offers me some value, not just an incremental update to VS2003, I will purchase it. If, on the other hand, I do not see value for money, I will probably give it a pass and wait for VS2007 or VS2009 before I purchase an upgrade for VS2003, and that is only if there is something in the newer release that I need. I don’t like to spend money without a good reason. My experience with .NET, so far, is that my C# programs seem to run slower than similar native (not managed) C++ programs. I haven’t yet set up any comprehensive tests but will when I get some spare time. I am working on solving a particularly tricky intermittent problem in a multi threaded application at the moment and do not have the time to do anything else

code-frog wrote: I see your point and I don't. Perhaps Mr. Newman can explain what his rush is? Could he elaborate on some new earth shattering feature that Visual Studio 2005 is going to give him that he is lacking in Visual Studio 2003? In fact why do we need a new release and not just a service pack for Visual Studio 2003? And why wasn’t Visual Studio 2003 a service pack to Visual Studio 2002. And why wasn’t Visual Studio 2002 a service pack to Visual Studio .NET, the original VS7 release. In fact all of these new releases of VS7 are giving what was originally promised in Visual Studio .NET and should have been supplied as service pack enhancements or were the promises just vacuous marketing hype. Even if there was some must have feature why rush something to market when beta test results have not been incorporated and known problems resolved? code-frog wrote: It's not that I worship Microsoft. Obviously I do not either, but I must pay the devil her due when it comes to Visual Studio. Sit down before reading this. I think Visual Studio is a very good development environment. Have you recovered yet? In fact as a product it seemed to be going in the right direction, until now, that is. To be fair, judging by the past performance of the VS development effort, it was probably some Billy Bigshits that made the decision to release before known problems were resolved and beta test results were incorporated. An analogy might be if you think that by putting some bean counter in charge of making medical decisions will result in better medical practice then you probably love the direction HMOs (health maintenance organization) in the US have gone in the past few years. Likewise, letting some bean counter determine quality standards for software will have equally disastrous effects on quality. code-frog wrote: It's not that I worship Microsoft. It's that I hold others to the same standard I can keep myself. Me too, and that is exactly the reason I would never release a product with known problems. code-frog wrote: We've crossed paths before and I don't think either of us made a real impression on the other. Quite the contrary, you have made an impression but I will pass on the chance to elaborate as it does not enter into how I view your arguments, as in points taken, not your being argumentative. code-frog wrote: <

I’m glad you don’t design airplanes!:doh: Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

My first reaction, when I read about this, was to post it here but (trying) to be a kindler & gentler B!tch I waited, for a day, to see if anyone else would. Do you know that here it is considered blasphemy to question the Pope of Redmond Village. Don’t you know he is infallible? I really liked the response from Redmond: Representatives from Microsoft's Visual Studio development group decided to pass on the suggestion. A few hours later, it posted a note saying, "We are confident that we will be able to ship you a high-quality product later this year." Are they smoking crack? That suggestion, for all you who flame before you read, was to fix the known bugs before releasing the product. Blasphemy! If they had waited to fix known bugs they couldn’t name it VisualStudio20042005. Kudos for the post. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

Roger Wright wrote: That's where my work has made a real difference, and the results of that work will long outlive me, in the form of young peoples' lives made richer and more filled with opportunity. Roger Wright wrote: Besides that, the networking possibilities are unlimited... I could take a cheap shot here, butt I deicded too pass. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

I had to laugh also when I realized that they succeeded in shooting themselves in the foot again. As the disclaimer on the web site said; "This is not a crack, no reverse engineering has been used and no animal has been hurt. Only tools provided by Microsoft are involved.":rolleyes: Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

I knew about the java script that you mentioned does not work anymore. I did not want to post it on a public forum. As it turns out someone else did. There is an old saying, "Information wants to be free". You mentioned an easier way. I will have to think about this because I love a good mystery. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress