"not a web dev" good, it's a messy industry 😂

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fascinating comic the ability of JS to spawn new frameworks reminds me of C's ability to spawn new languages so many things we write compile down to C eventually, just a question of how many steps of compilation are involved (and if they don't become C, it's a question of how long ago the language became self-hosting)

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haha "live and learn" isn't old school, it's timeless

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wow it's been ages since I posted here. Honestly, it's somewhat comforting to come back to a site with >40,000 active user sessions at any one time and see that it's life as usual on a website that is firmly Web2 with Web1 roots. No one here seems to be chasing "make everything serverless" and scaring people unneccesarily that their project "won't scale" when it doesn't even have 100 users yet. I think I stopped being active on here around the time that I graduated high-school and started uni. At that time, I met a ton of new people, discovered new programming communities, and branched out into learning Linux as a daily driver (always used PHP & C# on Windows prior), learned about cool new terminology, and (in hindsight) ingested a whole pile of imposter syndrome that told me my "limited" javascript, C#, and PHP knowledge wouldn't carry into the real world. through uni I lived through the initial web3 phase (terrible) and have seen at least 2 different ML hype cycles. I would follow the times through hackernews, twitter, and reddit and was constantly thinking that I didn't know nearly enough and that I had to learn **everything**. Anyway, now uni is far behind me and I've held down a decent software dev job for a while, I'm starting to realize how much time I wasted chasing the "current thing" rather than methodologically improving my existing skills. ... now that the update on my life story is done: has anyone here seen HTMX? What are your thoughts? It's a rebranded intercooler.js, and it aims to dissappear into the HTML spec as a moonshot goal. I quite like it. It seems like a step "back to basics" is occurring in the crowd that I got lost in for a while, and I'm all here for it.

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That doesn't sound like they have much 'control' over their source code :sigh: A chainsaw is worse than a regular saw if you insist on manually moving it back-and-forth over the wood instead of powering it up :wtf:

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Congratulations!

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I had to look up OpenVMS to find out what it was - looks really interesting! I'll have to try it out in a VM sometime :)

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That's fair. Out of curiosity what do you do at work that requires Windows for 3rd party hardware support? My first guess is user-facing applications for kiosks etc, but I might be completely missing the mark.

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Mike Hankey wrote:

I'm finding learning Linux, after working on other systems for so many years is like trying to feed chopped liver to a baby. You get the baby to digest a little but the most gets rejected.

Yup. I used Windows exclusively for years until I forced myself to learn Linux by installing it as my exclusive OS at home - took about 9 painful months before I was something close to comfortable :^) I'd say it was worth it - it opened my eyes to a whole world of programming & computing that I knew little about - but I never adjusted to the wider Linux culture & I don't really want to :rolleyes:

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I keep switching back-and-forth between Windows and Linux (elementary / Ubuntu flavour) for reasons such as greater compatibility and support with user-end software (on Windows) and cleaner networking tools, better command-line tooling, upgrade-when-you-want, etc (on Linux) WSL has made me lean somewhat more towards Windows (I get most command-line abilities from Linux) but it's not perfect: networking, hardware port support, virtualization, GPU access etc still leave a lot to be desired :| ^.^ Asking the question in the title because I'm curious about what kind of problems you guys have to work with & why you / your company chose your OS as the best solution for what you do - and whether you would change anything.

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Assuming you mean Ionic[^]? It's a pretty solid stack for PWA development - I've started using it for most of my freelance PWA contracts. Ionic's cloud services in particular are brilliant; their native apps for deploying & testing code locally (with hot reloading etc) are fantastic. :thumbsup:

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caw[^] core

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This is so awesome :cool:

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I've tried it (Xamarin in VS2017) - it isn't too bad imo. Most pseudo-native app development platforms are pretty slow compared to their native counterparts anyways. There's often a significant productivity boost from a dev's perspective (you can get more done faster), but it comes at the cost of more obscure edge-case bugs, limited functionality, and/or runtime speed impacts in the shipped product.

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:thumbsup: post-celebration sales are awesome!

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It's an incredibly user-hostile system :^) :sigh:. I've started using elementary OS[^] whenever possible to avoid this sort of stuff :java: Surely something like a monthly update day (with reminders the day/week before) would be appropriate for everything except emergency worst-case security patches? I don't mind having to restart to install updates, I just want control over when and why my machine reboots. :mad:

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:wtf: :suss:

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Yup, I've done this :laugh:

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Growing up, Code Project was quite literally my virtual home - I'm pretty sure for several months I browsed it more than Google. :cool: I wouldn't have learned how to code if it weren't for this place. Since I started Uni, it's been harder to stay as active around here as I used to be, but I do have to say that I really, really, love the CP's atmosphere and community - every time I visit it's like a breath of fresh air :badger: :badger: :vegemite: :vegemite:. The people here are genuine and friendly, and there doesn't seem to be any off-putting cultural obsession with being "cool and hip and trendy" at the expense of mastering proven tools and concepts. :) (Not that staying on top of trends is bad, it's just that other communities I'm in *cough cough* ermmhmmm *cough* can occasionally take it to an unhealthy "framework of the week" level where anything that wasn't released yesterday is bad.) I'm not sure what the behind-the-scenes stats look like, but I sincerely hope this place isn't going downhill - is there a decline in traffic? Do we need more article writers?

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Out of morbid curiosity, what range of up/down speeds do you guys work with, globally? Here in Brisbane, Australia, I've got decent download but comparatively terrible upload (due to severe ISP rate-limiting) http://i.imgur.com/rNF0q5A.png[^]

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