Matt Gullett wrote: I don't see how this is treating someone as a criminal, ie. asking for identification in a verifiable/secure form Matt, I am not against identification. However, I am against fingerprinting specifically. Finger prints (like DNA sampling) is different from other passive identifiaction schemes in that you leave a fingerprint trail wherever you go. I believe that the US has a right to identify me (which I why I quietly stood in line for 10 hours to get a Visa), but when they have my prints, I believe I loose too much control. Again, I restate my approval of iris scanning. Unlike fingerprinting, you have full control over who gets to see the scan and you don't leave it around everywhere you go. I said that the act of fingerprinting make me feel like I'm in the same camp as criminals. Why? Because only criminals a fingerprinted (or at least people with direct suspicion of a crime). If it was a social norm that every person was finger printed (which I hope will never be), I would probably feel differently. --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...

My problem with fingerprints is that I leave them everywhere I go. It's just a matter of my physiology... ;P Personally, I'd be happy to give a retina scan. At least I have control over that. It can be used to identify me, but I control who has access to it. I'm sure that its every bit as accurate as a fingerprint. Matt Gullett wrote: If your concern is that they are being automatically used to search criminal records, etc, I would say that most of us have nothing to fear Again, I'm against the stance of "If you have nothing to hide, let me search you". I'm no philosopher nor am I a sociologist or polition, but I can easily see the wrong in the state having too many powers. I just can't argue it that well as the aformentioned types. Last year there was a series of rapes in a certain part of Toronto. If what you are saying is right (i.e. you shouldn't have a problem if you have nothing to hide), then perhaps the police should have stopped every man living in a 5 mile radius and asked for a DNA sample? That just seems wrong to me. --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...

I've read all the comments posted but I'd like to respond to yours since its so nicely written. Matt Gullett wrote: I do not see how asking someone to provide identification (you already must have a passport), particularly a non-citizen, is treating them like a criminal I was specifically talking about finger prints. I don't mind being identified, but taking my prints is a little more than identifying me. Just the other day I read an interesting article on Wired that had the following point: Identification procedures should just be about that; identifying. If you take my print, that is more than just identifying me. I have never broken the law nor do I intend to, but this bothers me. Because... Matt Gullett wrote: The concept that the government is out-to-get-us, in my opinion is mostly hysteria IMO, you are right. At least for now and for the US. But I look at other countries with less-than-reputable civil liberty records (for example one large far east country..). If I were a US citizen (which I am not) I would want to do everything in my power to ensure the US never gets there. That's what the "right to bare arms" was all about, wasn't it? I'd like to say that I have given my fingerprints willingly multiple times in the past. I find it difficult to articulate why I think those times were different than what we're talking about now (it's one of those classical can't define it, but know it when I see it things). I'll get it a shot anyway: Hypothetically, if you were applying for security clearance, you would be asked for fingerprints. The request is due to an uncommon request on your part. Flying to another country, especially in this century is not an uncommon thing. Most people do it, and quite frequently. Targeting "all travellers", therefore, in my mind, equates to targeting "everybody". And herein lies my problem. In reading some of the replies (not yours Matt, but I'm sure others are reading), I got the "You're not a US citizen, you have no civil liberties here, if you don't like it don't come" vibe. I think, again, that misses the point. Maybe the chioce of the term "civil liberties" wasn't exactly accurate or to the point. I'm just trying to raise an issue of a government starting to collect huge amounts of database about people in a systematic, centralized way. I personally see a danger in that. If you don't, that is your right. --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs

Jason Henderson wrote: Get over it. It's a new world after 9/11. Well then, I guess I have my answer. I am the only one worried. Citing 9/11 as a reason to take away basic civil liberties is IMO a huge problem. I understand the need to balance privacy and national security, but where is the limit? Next, they will say: We have a lot of crime. Most of crime is commited by minorities. Let's round them all up and see if any of them are in our database. I'm certain they'll catch a lot of crooks that way. --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...

Assume for a minute that I work for a company that has customers in the US. I must fly to a US site to work on some problem. I can refuse and loose my job. Sure, its a privilege. Sure, I have the right not to go (and as you see in my original post, I'm excercising that right). But that's not the point. I'm complaining about the concept. In my book, this move by the US is just a prelude to more horrible things. I'm not a doomsday scenario kind of guy, but I think governments should be limited in these areas before we get 1984 in 2004. --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...

I'm sure you've all heard about the new "US Visit" thingy (dhs.gov[^]) where they fingerprint every foreign national that comes into the US. Maybe its government propaganda but every article I read is all full of people saying "yeah; extra security is important blah blah blah" and not a single person shouting out in cry for personal privacy. Even my wife can't understand why I'm upset. The usual US lobby groups probably won't nudge a finger since US citizens aren't being fingerprinted. I find this personally revolting. There's no reason in the world I should be treated like a criminal (or even potential criminal) just because I want to enter the states! Personally I'm cancelling a trip there and won't be going down south until I get my Canadian passport (as Canadians a exempt from all this BS). Unfortunately, how many people can say they have a Canadian passport waiting for them around the curve? -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...

If I rememeber correctly, Outlook 2003 will offer to compress images for you. If you don't use Outlook 2K3, but have WinZip, you can try their Outlook plugin. It allows you to Attach+ZIP in one shot. Not exactly what you were looking for (the images will be in a zip file) but might solve the problem nevertheless. -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...

jdunlap wrote: Well, you can alias things in a certain file True, but if you referr to little interface example you will see that my point was that typedefs are especially useful when used in global/cross-file scope. -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...

Wesner Moise wrote: Give me some of your ideas ... This is what I'm missing the most: 1. typedefs 2. statics, enum (and typedefs) in interfaces. The first exists in Java and I can't figure out why they didn't do in C#. This will be a big boost:

interface IFoo
{
// currently need to use abstract class to do this :(
public static final int ALL_FOOS_USE_THIS = 2;

// currently need to use abstract class to do this :(
public enum foo_statuses { ... }

// good 'ol C++ style type aliasing - not available at all
public typedef ISomeProxy::someEnum fooEnum;

....
}

3. Design by contract - Design by contract can help debug both at development and at runtime:

3.1 const objects/methods - one of the best compile-type aids as well as declarative help for the optimizer. 3.2 Complex contracts ala "D":

http://www.digitalmars.com/d/dbc.html[^] http://www.digitalmars.com/d/class.html[^] (search for the title "Invariants")

Class invariants are IMO a huge thing, helping enforce (and validate) the programmer's view of the world as well as helping to document the code.

-Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...

I just wanted to add that I had a huge problem with Nero when the buffer underrun protection (aka ExacLink on the Nero burn prefs screen) was turned on. Don't ask me why. Anyway, unchecking that option solved the problem at the (not too great) expense of not having underrun protection. -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...

Peter Zajac wrote: on Tools menu find "Send/Receive Settings" sub menu, which has "Define Send/Receive Groups ..." You are right and all I can say is Oh My God what have they done? Replaced a lowly checkbox with a whole bunch of dialogs. Total UI obfuscation! This thing is so deeply hidden, that even MS's own people couldn't help me. Plea to MS: Don't fix it if it ain't broken! -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC++ experience that much more comfortable...

Chris Maunder wrote: So more fluff and more peripheral features with no obvious attempts to improve the underlying functionality of the product. Lest not we forget that they actuall undid some useful functionality! For example, they removed some the ability to disable an email account (a feature that goes back to the first Outlook and even Outlook Express). When I reported this as a bug, all I got was "this is by design". Jeez, I guess I'll just have to delete accounts every time one of the 5 mail servers I have to check misbehaves. Or maybe I could just get used to Outlook popping up an error message every 5 minutes. Or maybe I'll just stick to good 'ol Outlook 2000. Progress, for sure. -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC++ experience that much more comfortable...

Russell Morris wrote: Is it only with C++ projects? I see it C# projects. With the way the C# projects work (and possibly VC.NET projects as well), the IDE has to copy the output DLL to two or three locations (even more if you have a lot of references), so the bug manifests itself more. I suspect that it would be more rare with VC++ project since there is less copying involved (read: I've never seen it in any of my VC++ projects). Russell Morris wrote: BTW: I love WndTabs! Thanks! --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC++ experience that much more comfortable...

No complaints to Nick - he's been doing an excellent job in moving VC++ along! I don't think he's related to the IDE team (though I wish he were...) -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC++ experience that much more comfortable...

<rant> So VS.NET 2003 will be coming out soon. Geez.. great. But what about all us users who have been stuck with VS.NET 2002 with all it's frustrating bugs for a year now? And the #1 bug that's been plaguing our project is the infamous VS.NET file locking bug: As soon as your DLL passes the magical 64kb mark, you get the "the file is locked by another process" error. Another process my #@$#@!!! And now, for the millionth's time since we started this project I have to either fork the project into artificially smaller project (man, I thought the days of 64kb limits were long behind us!) or add yet another utility project to do some voodoo file copying to get around the problem. I think this is irresponsible behavior on Microsoft's side. In the entire year that VS.NET has been on the market, only one patch (fixing only one bug) was released (and even that one was hard to find!). Now we'll be forced to upgrade to the new IDE (god knows what problems that will introduce) just because they didn't fix fundemental problems with the current release. Maybe someone from Microsofts hangs around the lounge and would like to tell me why it has to be this way? </rant> -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC++ experience that much more comfortable...

Simon Walton wrote: I think a simple warning would be enough informing him of the rules on CP. I think we're past that. He was "warned" before, which is my point. Man, the guy just won't learn. If he has knowledge to share, but all means I'm for that. But that's not his goal and the knowledge sharing is miniscule. Imagine that 50% of the posts on CP would be like that. Where would we be? --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC++ experience that much more comfortable...

Would you walk into a bar and tell people there that drinking beer is for stupid people? I don't think so. But here is what Bill had to say when CPians pointed out that he shouldn't post "commercial" articles without source code: Bill SerGio wrote: It is clear that you guys are NOT entrepreneurs and feel that a small salary from an employers is enough for your families! If you want to read my response, please see: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/autoupdate.asp?msg=286635#xx286635xx[^] I really think something should finally be done. This is by no means the first time that he has been the focus of problems (search the Lounge, you'll find pleanty of stuff). It's sad that we've come to this sorry point, but (IMHO) we need to protect the site from people who can't play by the rules. What do you guys think? -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC++ experience that much more comfortable...

One thing is for sure - VS.NET is slooooooooow at checking dependencies (I was using Beta 2). On my dual Athelon /w 512mb, it took over a minute to check dependencies for a workspace of about 30 projects. X| Imagine waiting that long every time you hit the compile button... -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC++ experience that much more comfortable...

One thing is for sure - VS.NET is slooooooooow at checking dependencies (I was using Beta 2). On my dual Athelon /w 512mb, it took over a minute to check dependencies for a workspace of about 30 projects. X| Imagine waiting that long every time you hit the compile button... -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC++ experience that much more comfortable...

Try Moby. They have almost every kind of dictionary there. Cheers, -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC++ experience that much more comfortable...