dnh wrote: I've even seen using .NET objects from PHP... sorry, but I think PHP is trash. Or better, it's doing its job (Personal Home Page), but it's NOT good for bigger projects (my own exps). For milion reasons. Ok, but you are not answering to my point. Couldn't you have a lib of functions and classes that are reusable either with PHP or ASP just the same way you do with ASP.NET? Ok they are not Class Libraries but they are still a set of reusable functions. And mind you, there are alot more out there available in ASP or PHP than in ASP.NET. dnh wrote: I enjoy ease of WebControls, XmlDocuments etc almost every day To name my favourites. I must admit that support for XML is almost a foreign concept in classic ASP. You can still use it throught XMLHTTP object etc... but trully it cannot be compared to the XML support within DOT NET. I totally agree with that. As for the web controls, I am still not very sure about it. dnh wrote: What's wrong with codebehind? (except it will slightly change with partial classes in 2.0). See, there is something wrong about it, otherwise MS wouldn't change it back to a single file in Framework 2.0. It is a good concept but I thing that the implimentation of it is not as good. It looks a bit cluttered. It just doesn't feel good to me. dnh wrote: As for one form... hmmm... I don't know... Yes, I dont know either. Why do it like that? And what if I dont want a damn form in my page? Why do I need to travel through javascript just to click on a simple link? Why do I need to write special javascript to make sure that when you press on the ENTER key the correct POSTBACK event source it triggered. And all that for what? for beeing able to, as you mentioned if HTML designer (VS.NET tool, not person) wasn't so evil, do nothing at the end... I gain nothing from all this. It only causes a problems. One would say, ok but you can dynamically create a textbox. Ok so you can do with ASP and PHP. Just do a response.write("<input type=""text"" name=""myTextBox"" value=""myValue"">>") dnh wrote: no. (for the click n' drag method of development) See, its a so much advertised feature, which is actually never used. To be honest, I have never seen anyone delivering a project to a customer by using this method of development. Never. dnh wrote: I don't consider myself "experienced web developer" aft