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Rob Graham wrote: The good news is that the great international socialist brotherhood will be flat broke, having killed commerce, destroyed the currency, and started a trade war. Thats what I have counted on all along. If anything is going to kill liberalism, it is going to have to be liberalism itself. God knows there is no political will to do it in any other way. Rob Graham wrote: What do you suppose he'll do when hyperinflation hits in about 6 months? Raise interest rates to Jimmy Carter levels? I don't think there will be any other choice. If any of this shit works at all, I will be happy to eat crow and go about my life. But frankly, I think it is all down hill from here. And we ain't talking 'slippery slope' downhill, but more like 'edge of the precipice at the bottom of the slippery slope' downhill. I just want to be able to shout 'I told ya so ya ignorant leftist bastards' as I'm dragged over the side'. Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

A worthy response... -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

Bob Emmett wrote: I pray to Obama, the patron saint of lost Change. He's a politican - the last "conservative" we elected ended his time in office by nationalizing a bunch of companies. Thirty years ago we had a far-right-winger who imposed wage and price controls and then took our currency off the gold standard, creating the inflationary spiral we are dealing with today, as well as setting the scene for Bernanke to make magic money. They all lie. Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

kmg365 wrote: I'm starting to wonder bet not, bet you're starting to understand. Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

Ilíon wrote: What if those (Seventh-day Adventists, for instance) who believe that the US will turn out to be the muscle behind The Anti-Christ are essentially correct? If our nation is on the road to becoming an abomination, isn't this sort of thing what one should expect to see more and more of? Personally, I'm betting on the little green men to conquer us from their flying saucers, unless, of course, the Atlanteans come out of the sea and do it first. . . Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

Stan Shannon wrote: Frankly, I don't believe that good works get you into heavan, faith does. But bad works keep you out, right? I suppose the definition of evil in those terms therefore is the person with faith in the existence of God as presented by his religion of choice, who then deliberately commits acts that will condemn him to hell. Whereas, from a next-world point of view, it doesn't matter what the non-believer does. He is outside the system, so to speak. Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

Stan Shannon wrote: I'm simply saying that the kind of people who embrace religion for a sense of moral clearity, are the same kind of people who embrace liberal ideals for the same reason. If I understand what you are saying, I don't think that's simple, I'm thinking it's insightful. Although I'm wondering if you couldn't say that conservatives, too, embrace their ideals because it reinforces their view of themselves and assures them of their moral superiority. On the other hand, you may not mean any more than Ilion thinks you mean, in which case, look at the great idea I came up with! ;) Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

The saddest part is that the same media frenzy that would have followed a Bush gaffe of this magnitude just uses Obama's gaffe to remember the good ol' days[^]... When Obama does it its just... ...heartening to hear our politicians stumble over words, mangle syntax and make inappropriate jokes. It shows politicians are human, too. Sometimes. What a bunch of hypocritical fuck wads... Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Ilíon wrote: What? You boys don't know about the 'risk compensation' effect? So it was news to you, huh? Bob Emmett

Oakman wrote: Closest approximation is as far as I go ever with being certain, In this case I don't think there's enough evidence to use the word at all. Nonetheless I liked the phrase. I grant you, you said "I believe" to qualify the statement :) Oakman wrote: though it took you awhile to list your a priori. First logical place. We only got on Bible authenticity in the round before this. As far as internal consistency, I can't talk to Wiccan beliefs, but there are hard revisions in the LDS cannon that lead one to question its authority, and major disagreements between the OT/NT and the Mormon specific books. Internal consistency is not as easy as it looks. Now if you talk FSM, it takes it to an art form. edit Nice conversation, I appreciate it. Have a good weekend. /edit Silver member by constant and unflinching longevity.

oldie and goodie. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Heard different state versions of this. Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]

Oakman wrote: I might claim that 20 million illegals pouring across our border is an invasion, but unless the Congress proclaims it so, it isn't. LOL - whether or not Congress proclaims it so, it is so, but I understand your point, even if it clearly makes us both racists. Oakman wrote: Most of your arguments have nothing to do with my main point since they all suggest that the government had placed a wiretap on someone else legally, and that their conversation with me would make the tap illegal. :confused: That was YOUR point: that any tap that catches a US person is illegal w/o a warrant. I was showing you that that is not a legal, or logical, viewpoint. SCOTUS has stated that Bush had war time powers, triggered by congress see Hamdan v. Rumsfeld[^]. Oakman wrote: Habeas Corpus is a power given to one branch of government to use against another branch No, it gives us the right to curtail gov power. That it gets applied through the judicial system does not make it a gov power. It also gives congress the power to wave it (but not the exec branch). THAT is giving the gov power. Oakman wrote: I'm not a lwayer, even though I've played one on TV. Cool (koull?) - what show? :laugh: I'm not an actor - but I have seen one on TV. :-\ As far as AIG - there are waayyy too many stupid sheeple in this country. Silver member by constant and unflinching longevity.

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Ilíon wrote: You, on the other hand, seem to be incapable of learning. Apparently. It seems I should learn to accept a single news source of your liking as being obvious and absolute truth. Too bad your 'news source' for today, contradicts this one. Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

Fair enough. That wasn't clear by your post though. Thanks for the explanation. This statement is false

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