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  • L Lost User

    If Microsoft & WindowsMetro = HTML5_JS_ONLY Then Mood = WTF. End If. I do NOT WANT HTML5 and JS! Also, I'm considering cross-platform. So... Java? C++? Python? Bacon?

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    Pete OHanlon
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    Klingon. At least code comments would be better.

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    • L Lost User

      If Microsoft & WindowsMetro = HTML5_JS_ONLY Then Mood = WTF. End If. I do NOT WANT HTML5 and JS! Also, I'm considering cross-platform. So... Java? C++? Python? Bacon?

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      Lutoslaw
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      BeFunge is the best for parallel programming. I had written an interpreter one time but it didn't work. There are plenty of them availible for free, though.

      Greetings - Jacek

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      • L Lutoslaw

        BeFunge is the best for parallel programming. I had written an interpreter one time but it didn't work. There are plenty of them availible for free, though.

        Greetings - Jacek

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        Lost User
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        Not as good as BACON, though.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          I'd go with BACON - I'd cross a platform to get at it.

          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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          Lutoslaw
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          OriginalGriff wrote:

          I'd go with BACON - I'd cross a platform to get at it.

          And what plat would you use to form a crossed becon?

          Greetings - Jacek

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          • L Lost User

            Not as good as BACON, though.

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            Lutoslaw
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            If you knew BeFunge then you wouldn't say that. There is no BACON which would beat it.

            Greetings - Jacek

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              Actually, everything in VB should start with Dim. Never understood what it means... Dim-witted maybe? :laugh:

              It's an OO world.

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              Lutoslaw
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              It's a historical thing. In BASIC only arrays could be explicitely declared, with a specified Dimension. Now every kind of variable can be declared but the Dim keyword remained.

              Greetings - Jacek

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                Actually, everything in VB should start with Dim. Never understood what it means... Dim-witted maybe? :laugh:

                It's an OO world.

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                Gregory Gadow
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                Naerling wrote:

                Actually, everything in VB should start with Dim.
                Never understood what it means...

                It's from the misty days of "Once upon a time" when all variables were arrays. The original keyword was dimension, which later flavors shortened to dim (the old comment indicator, rem, is similarly derived from the keywork remark.) A statement such as

                DIM v

                was just an abbreviated version of

                DIMENSION v(0)

                Crimeny, what are they teaching you young whippersnappers in school these days? :rolleyes:

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                • G Gregory Gadow

                  Naerling wrote:

                  Actually, everything in VB should start with Dim.
                  Never understood what it means...

                  It's from the misty days of "Once upon a time" when all variables were arrays. The original keyword was dimension, which later flavors shortened to dim (the old comment indicator, rem, is similarly derived from the keywork remark.) A statement such as

                  DIM v

                  was just an abbreviated version of

                  DIMENSION v(0)

                  Crimeny, what are they teaching you young whippersnappers in school these days? :rolleyes:

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                  Sander Rossel
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                  Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                  rem, is similarly derived from the keywork remark.

                  Every Class should start with:

                  REM - Losing My Religion

                  Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                  what are they teaching you young whippersnappers in school these days?

                  Don't know... I learned something about art and media, but that was to be expected from an art and media study :rolleyes: Never went to school for programming (actually, I just finished school alltogether) :laugh:

                  It's an OO world.

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                  • L Lutoslaw

                    It's a historical thing. In BASIC only arrays could be explicitely declared, with a specified Dimension. Now every kind of variable can be declared but the Dim keyword remained.

                    Greetings - Jacek

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                    Sander Rossel
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                    Dimension almost makes it sound kind of cool... :^) Wikipedia quote: In computer programming, BASIC (an acronym which stands for Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code) is a family of high-level programming languages designed to be easy to use. Never knew that's what it stood for either! :laugh: BASIC was used before I was even born though... Well, it is probably still used somewhere, but you know what I mean. Ouch, I guess I really lack some historical background knowledge for a VB programmer. Perhaps I should start learning FORTRAN and Lisp and get some historical programmer sense too :)

                    It's an OO world.

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                    • L Lost User

                      French, then you can write WTF as@ c'est quoi cette connerie?

                      “Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.” Martin Keeley, geology scientist

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                      GenJerDan
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                      What about Sean Connery?

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                      • C Chris Meech

                        That's proof of bacon being portable. :)

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                        Oakman
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                        Chris Meech wrote:

                        That's proof of bacon being portable

                        So is my belly

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                        • G Gregory Gadow

                          Naerling wrote:

                          Actually, everything in VB should start with Dim.
                          Never understood what it means...

                          It's from the misty days of "Once upon a time" when all variables were arrays. The original keyword was dimension, which later flavors shortened to dim (the old comment indicator, rem, is similarly derived from the keywork remark.) A statement such as

                          DIM v

                          was just an abbreviated version of

                          DIMENSION v(0)

                          Crimeny, what are they teaching you young whippersnappers in school these days? :rolleyes:

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                          Luc Pattyn
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                          I especially liked LET. Assignment statements once had to start with it:

                          LET A = 1
                          LET B = 2
                          LET C = A + B

                          Code sounded much nicer back then. :)

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                          • L Luc Pattyn

                            I especially liked LET. Assignment statements once had to start with it:

                            LET A = 1
                            LET B = 2
                            LET C = A + B

                            Code sounded much nicer back then. :)

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                            Gregory Gadow
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                            Luc Pattyn wrote:

                            Code sounded much nicer back then.

                            Ah, yes. I recall those halcyon days when programming involved requests rather than commands. :-D

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                            • L Lutoslaw

                              If you knew BeFunge then you wouldn't say that. There is no BACON which would beat it.

                              Greetings - Jacek

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                              Lost User
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                              I dare you to fight between the two languages. BACON would win without doing anything.

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                              • L Luc Pattyn

                                I especially liked LET. Assignment statements once had to start with it:

                                LET A = 1
                                LET B = 2
                                LET C = A + B

                                Code sounded much nicer back then. :)

                                Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                                The quality and detail of your question reflects on the effectiveness of the help you are likely to get.
                                Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they improve readability.
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                                Lutoslaw
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                                LET was supported in VB 6.0, wasn't it[^]? In VB .NET it is still a keyword but isn't used anymore :doh: .

                                Greetings - Jacek

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                                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                  Dimension almost makes it sound kind of cool... :^) Wikipedia quote: In computer programming, BASIC (an acronym which stands for Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code) is a family of high-level programming languages designed to be easy to use. Never knew that's what it stood for either! :laugh: BASIC was used before I was even born though... Well, it is probably still used somewhere, but you know what I mean. Ouch, I guess I really lack some historical background knowledge for a VB programmer. Perhaps I should start learning FORTRAN and Lisp and get some historical programmer sense too :)

                                  It's an OO world.

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                                  Lutoslaw
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                                  Naerling wrote:

                                  Well, it is probably still used somewhere

                                  Some programmable calculators may support BASIC, but [citation needed].

                                  Greetings - Jacek

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    I dare you to fight between the two languages. BACON would win without doing anything.

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                                    Lutoslaw
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                                    The following BeFunge code generates the first 100 digits of PI:

                                    aa* v +------------------------+
                                    vp*9920p*9930< | Pi generator in Bef-97 |

                                    :09a*pa*3/1+19a*p09a*g:09b*v | |
                                    v_@# g*b90 p*b910 < p< | 7/2/1997, Kevin Vigor |
                                    19a*g:+1-29b*p19a*g::09v +------------------------+
                                    v*a90g*b90*g*b91: _v#p*9<
                                    g-#v_ 2a*+\$ v :$
                                    \1-aa*ga*+v p
                                    v1:/g*b92p*991:< *
                                    9b*p29b*g*199*g\v9
                                    v*b92p*aa-1g*990-<9
                                    g2-29b*p099*g1-:0^
                                    v -9p*b92:%ag*991 <
                                    #v_ 299*g1+299*p> ^
                                    09b*g:#v_$v
                                    v93p*b90-1<
                                    9*g199*ga/+.v
                                    v:g*992 <p*9 92-<
                                    v_29b*g399*p ^
                                    09b*g:#v_v 1
                                    vp*b90-1 < $ g
                                    199*g9`#v_'9,v *
                                    '0, >' ,299^

                                    Huh?!

                                    Greetings - Jacek

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                                    • S Slacker007

                                      Reminds me of the Camel cigarette commercials. "I'd walk a mile for a strip of crispy bacon."

                                      -- ** Jack of all trades and master of none.

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                                      Henry Minute
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                                      I've never tried Camel BACON. What's it like? (Apart from crispy, that is.)

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                                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                        Dimension almost makes it sound kind of cool... :^) Wikipedia quote: In computer programming, BASIC (an acronym which stands for Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code) is a family of high-level programming languages designed to be easy to use. Never knew that's what it stood for either! :laugh: BASIC was used before I was even born though... Well, it is probably still used somewhere, but you know what I mean. Ouch, I guess I really lack some historical background knowledge for a VB programmer. Perhaps I should start learning FORTRAN and Lisp and get some historical programmer sense too :)

                                        It's an OO world.

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                                        Oakman
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                                        Naerling wrote:

                                        Well, it is probably still used somewhere, but you know what I mean.

                                        http://www.truebasic.com/[^]

                                        The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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                                        • L Lutoslaw

                                          LET was supported in VB 6.0, wasn't it[^]? In VB .NET it is still a keyword but isn't used anymore :doh: .

                                          Greetings - Jacek

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                                          Oakman
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                                          Jacek Gajek wrote:

                                          LET was supported in VB 6.0, wasn't it

                                          BASIC was designed to mimic assembler. Therefore, every command started with an Op-code. LET, SET and LSET were all used to declare a variable's value.

                                          The 3-legged stool of understanding is held up by history, languages, and mathematics. Equipped with these three you can learn anything you want to learn. But if you lack any one of them you are just another ignorant peasant with dung on your boots. R. A. H.

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