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Windows 8: Pushing hated UI elements

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  • Q QuiJohn

    Dario Solera wrote:

    I find it very good actually.

    I have to say I'm surprised how many here like it. It makes me wonder if I'm missing something and maybe I should give it another shot. Nah, I have a Mac now. (Which is a license for me to be a snooty asshole, right?)

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    Dario Solera
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    I too have a Mac (a MacBook Air), but I mostly dislike OSX. I purchased it for the remarkable hardware and immediately installed Windows 7 via Bootcamp.

    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog

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    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

      Dalek Dave wrote:

      non-drying paint

      Then it's not paint.

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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      Dalek Dave
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      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

        It should be an option

        It is.

        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        How so? I don't think you mean I can configure Office 2007+ to use ye olde menues. (And I don't mean some third-party replacement.)

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        • Q QuiJohn

          Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.

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          thrakazog
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          David Kentley wrote:

          Does anyone like the ribbon interface?

          The only good thing about it will be if there is an option to hide it.

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            If you're involved, I think Rule 35 more appropriate. [BTW, does Smitha[^] know about this?]


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            Peter Mulholland
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            I've just wasted too much time looking at rules of the internet. Incidentally when I google rules of the internet[^] The 5th result is NSFW judging by the title and does not appear to have anything to do with rules of the internet (unless you apply 34 I suppose)

            Pete

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

              It should be an option

              It is.

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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              S Houghtelin
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              From M$ Excel help regarding the Ribbon, Help Subject: What happened to the File menu? The answer: “The ribbon replaces the menu” then goes on to extol the virtues of the ribbon ending at the bottom where it simply states "Use the Ribbon" Which is a link to how to play ribbon "whack-a-mole".

              It was broke, so I fixed it.

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                I'm not a fan of toolbars either.

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                Rage
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                Reckon that you don't like anything involving the mouse, you keys pusher.

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                • Q QuiJohn

                  Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.

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                  Rage
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                  The ribbon is not the primary problem in this screenshot. Maybe Microsoft could for once try to understand that an explorer needs to have two panes, one source and one target. I'll stick to Total Commander until this is fixed.

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                  • R Rage

                    Reckon that you don't like anything involving the mouse, you keys pusher.

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                    GenJerDan
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                    Toolbars (and their ilk) get ridiculous at times. Ok, folks, put your thinking caps on. We need icons for: Save Save As Save Copy As Save All and Save to New Location Make them all obvious as to their function, different, easily recognizable, and you only have 4 thousand pixels to work with... Oh, yeah, and you can't make them look like a floppy disk anymore, since no one under 30 knows what that is. :laugh:

                    I thought you had to go to Pittsburgh for that. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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                    • Q QuiJohn

                      Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.

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                      Single Step Debugger
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                      When I first started to use it I hated it, now two years later I hate it even more.

                      There is only one Ashley Judd and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        Embrace the ribbon. BE THE RIBBON!

                        Touch the ribbon, feel the ribbon, caress the ribbon, oh wait - wrong forum!

                        Regards, Nish


                        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                        GenJerDan
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                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                        Touch the ribbon, feel the ribbon, caress the ribbon, oh wait - wrong forum!

                        See the chrome. Feel the chrome. Touch the chrome. Heal the chrome. See the screaming, hot black steaming, iridescent naugahyde, python screaming, steam roller! Oh, wait. Wong song. ;)

                        I thought you had to go to Pittsburgh for that. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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                        • P peterchen

                          That's because you are an accountant. Self-drying paint is exciting for you. ;P

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          I just sprayed semi-masticated ham-and-swiss-on-croissant all over my $3,500 LCD-flat-panel-and-touchscreen. I will be sending you a bill. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                            Embrace the ribbon. BE THE RIBBON!

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                            Gary Wheeler
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                            You do realize that impersonating JSOP is a really good way to develop lead poisoning, don't you?

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            • R Rage

                              Reckon that you don't like anything involving the mouse, you keys pusher.

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              I didn't have carpal tunnel syndrome when I was using a dumb terminus or a terminus emulator. It started when I started using Visual Studio and Office.

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                What would you call it then? See Here[^]

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                Extremely-Slow-Dying Paint. Note that it has a maximum lifetime of 1 year, which means it's dry by then.

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                • P PIEBALDconsult

                                  How so? I don't think you mean I can configure Office 2007+ to use ye olde menues. (And I don't mean some third-party replacement.)

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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                  I mean you can turn off, or even minimize, the ribbon. You can also customize a little menu with the stuff you use often.

                                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                  • G Gary Wheeler

                                    I just sprayed semi-masticated ham-and-swiss-on-croissant all over my $3,500 LCD-flat-panel-and-touchscreen. I will be sending you a bill. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    Steve Mayfield
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                                    Haven't we all learned by now that eating and CPing do not mix :doh:

                                    Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                                    • R Rage

                                      The ribbon is not the primary problem in this screenshot. Maybe Microsoft could for once try to understand that an explorer needs to have two panes, one source and one target. I'll stick to Total Commander until this is fixed.

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                                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                      Rage wrote:

                                      have two panes

                                      I solve that by having two explorers, side by side.

                                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                        I mean you can turn off, or even minimize, the ribbon. You can also customize a little menu with the stuff you use often.

                                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                        minimize, the ribbon

                                        Which I've tried, it made it worse.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          I prefer Neural Jack-ins. I mean why dig through menus/ribbons when I can think it!

                                          Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                                          Gary Wheeler
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                                          Ah, the famous telepathic user interface: "do what I meant, not what I said."

                                          Software Zen: delete this;

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