VS 11
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While I think it's generally a positive move in the interface, I am not so sure about the iconography. The comment, uncomment icons, for instance, aren't intuitive.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
The comment, uncomment icons, for instance, aren't intuitive.
This is just a beta. By the time they release it, they'll be even less intuitive AND in a place that you wouldn't expect.
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I like that dark theme. But what I really want to know is...will they bring back middle click? (Minor, but annoying when you're used to using it in...every other application ever...currently the only way to get middle click functionality is via add-ons)
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Highlights to look forward to :) (or not depending on your personality ;P ) VS 11 introducing the new developer experience[^] [Edit] Editted to point directly to the post rather than the blog
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
I say VS will be the death of us all; I wish they could just make it more usable like Dynamics NAV development; anyone who has done C/SIDE knows how intuitive it all is, although the guys at Redmond are actually working very hard to kill a beautiful product. That dark theme looks like borrowed from WP7 themes or vice versa. I predict a riot
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Well if you think about marketing that is what makes sence to do. If everything is colorful and bright and you want your system to stand out and be unique tone down. Then when everyone begins to mimic you (again), brighten up. Rinse and repeat and stay ahead of the market :-D
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Agreed. Personally I like the colors/gradients/lines, etc. This monochromatic interpretation: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-07-01/[^]
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Highlights to look forward to :) (or not depending on your personality ;P ) VS 11 introducing the new developer experience[^] [Edit] Editted to point directly to the post rather than the blog
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
I think it looks Ok. Not many in the comments on that article seem to agree with me
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Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Well if you think about marketing that is what makes sence to do.
What's a river in Leicestershire got to do with anything?
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So it's seem colors and gradients are now out again? These things seem to be cyclic. Expect VS 12 (or maybe 13 if I'm being generous) to boast about it's brightly colored icons and tasteful use of gradients.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I would have rather they just fixed bugs and increased the speed of VS than change the interface.
Amen to that. I came to VS2010 from VS6 - 2010 runs like a dog in comparison. Even with multi-core compilation, it is still slower than VS6, compilation regularly freezes up my whole machine and the compilation dependency scanner seems to have taken a huge step backwards (it uses some arcane an indecipherable rules to decide what needs recompiling and when - and pretty much always decides that everything needs to be rebuilt).
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Highlights to look forward to :) (or not depending on your personality ;P ) VS 11 introducing the new developer experience[^] [Edit] Editted to point directly to the post rather than the blog
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Highlights to look forward to :) (or not depending on your personality ;P ) VS 11 introducing the new developer experience[^] [Edit] Editted to point directly to the post rather than the blog
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Those fuckers. The god-damned Expression Blend team got to them. It's got the same fucking unreadable color scheme UI! Agist pricks.
Software Zen:
delete this;Agreed. I hated Expression for that very reason. Loved the UI in VS 2008 and 2010. Personally, I find a little color HELPS me find things better at a glance. Otherwise, it all blends together and instead of visual recognition of the icon, you spend your time actually READING the text of every tooltip. Are they insane? They're trying to make it HARDER for us?!
Dan Dingus MCSA, A+, Network+ Network & Systems Engineer
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New UI... meh. I'm not excited. Looks like the Metro design team got a hold of Visual Studio. What I want to know is if they fixed C++/CLI intellisense. However, now that I've gotten used to working without it, I'm really not certain I want it back.
Here's hoping! And maybe context sensitive help while they are at it.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I would have rather they just fixed bugs and increased the speed of VS than change the interface.
Amen to that. I came to VS2010 from VS6 - 2010 runs like a dog in comparison. Even with multi-core compilation, it is still slower than VS6, compilation regularly freezes up my whole machine and the compilation dependency scanner seems to have taken a huge step backwards (it uses some arcane an indecipherable rules to decide what needs recompiling and when - and pretty much always decides that everything needs to be rebuilt).
Agreed. I came to VS 10 from VS 6 as well, and while I love the features in VS 10 (solution specific directories are definitely my favorite), the way it siezes my processors and won't let go, not to mention the repeated crashes when using class wizard or trying to do simple things like add a new or existing class or project is monumentaly frustrating. I was hoping VS 11 would fix all that without mucking up the rest. Now it lools like I'll just have to wait for VS 12.
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Well if you think about marketing that is what makes sence to do. If everything is colorful and bright and you want your system to stand out and be unique tone down. Then when everyone begins to mimic you (again), brighten up. Rinse and repeat and stay ahead of the market :-D
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Well, at least they aren't introducing the ribbom.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Well, at least they aren't introducing the ribbom.
That was my first fear when I saw the headline too ...
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Highlights to look forward to :) (or not depending on your personality ;P ) VS 11 introducing the new developer experience[^] [Edit] Editted to point directly to the post rather than the blog
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Don't like it. Too gray. Boring.
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Highlights to look forward to :) (or not depending on your personality ;P ) VS 11 introducing the new developer experience[^] [Edit] Editted to point directly to the post rather than the blog
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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It is still being developed. We will not see an official release until after (maybe slightly before) W8.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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VS2005/2008 were the best looking. But I love the VS2010 feature to separate a code window from the app and place it on the second monitor to do side by side comparison of code. VS2010 is ugly though and so seems to be VS 11...
I am with you there. I liked the older look ('05 and '08) better, but I moved into 2010 right away because of the features. I don't like the look of VS11 but I understand what they are doing. So it may actually make me more productive.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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If you wanna stay ahead of the market, don't copy your competitor's UI (OSX Lion). That's trying to keep up with the market.
Thats assuming marketing and branding items are not cyclical (my belief is they are) If they are cyclical you should copy your competition at just the right time, cause then you are ahead :)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.