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  • L Lost User

    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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    Marc Clifton
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    _Maxxx_ wrote:

    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

    Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

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    • L Lost User

      Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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      OriginalGriff
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      It does rather put you off Android development, doesn't it? We are spoiled, it seems...

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        _Maxxx_ wrote:

        Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

        Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

        Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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        Lost User
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        I wanted to test my Android article - so tried to remove Eclipse and start again. I was so tempted to just leave it uninstalled and forget the article! Still, my readers need me I want to win a prize. FTFM

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        • L Lost User

          I've never eaten them

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          They give terrible gas.

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            It does rather put you off Android development, doesn't it? We are spoiled, it seems...

            Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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            Lost User
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            I think it seems to be one of those projects that's got too big for its boots. I think the new google IDE might be better - but it means you have to write in Java ! Rock and Hard Place

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            • D DaveAuld

              Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

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              Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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              beaten to a wind comment

              You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                DaveAuld wrote:

                Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

                It's on my list to try next. You're using Beaglebone's, right? Are you using Netbeans for cross compiling? Marc

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                DaveAuld
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                I haven't got to the beaglebone yet! It is sat on my desk staring at me, next to a Raspi + Getboard, an Arduino and strangely a Netgear gigabit card ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and how could I forget a tin of Stewart Luxury Scottish Fudge. They Parallela boards are also still waiting, and now something else has got in the way. (more on that later...:suss:)

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                  They give terrible gas.

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  That will be a Gas Cloud. i'll get my coat.

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                    That will be a Gas Cloud. i'll get my coat.

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    DaveAuld wrote:

                    That will be a Gas Cloud

                    Azure or Amazon? Or do they both stink? :-D

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    • D DaveAuld

                      I haven't got to the beaglebone yet! It is sat on my desk staring at me, next to a Raspi + Getboard, an Arduino and strangely a Netgear gigabit card ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and how could I forget a tin of Stewart Luxury Scottish Fudge. They Parallela boards are also still waiting, and now something else has got in the way. (more on that later...:suss:)

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                      Marc Clifton
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                      Well, I await to hear your further adventures. I've been having fun getting the onboard UART to communicate to an MEI bill acceptor, which uses mark/space parity to distinguish between commands, data, and final checksum byte. And of course, only odd/even parity is supported by Debian even though the hardware supports mark/space. Oh, that was painful, but success was achieved! Marc

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                      • L Lost User

                        Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                        PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                        CPallini
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                        _Maxxx_ wrote:

                        Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                        And notepad as well.

                        THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                        • L Lost User

                          I wanted to test my Android article - so tried to remove Eclipse and start again. I was so tempted to just leave it uninstalled and forget the article! Still, my readers need me I want to win a prize. FTFM

                          PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                          Lost User
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                          You might want to have a look at Android Developer Studio from Intellij IDEA https://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html[^]. (Updates available that linked product is a few days out of date)

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                          • D DaveAuld

                            Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

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                            CPallini
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                            I had (and still have).

                            THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                              _Maxxx_ wrote:

                              Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                              Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

                              Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                              Dan Neely
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                              I've have no idea what eclipse would call it (not invented here most likely); but tab Z order sounds right for any rational software stack.

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                                _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                And notepad as well.

                                THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                                That's Award-Winning Notepad for you: Clickety[^] (Followup[^])

                                ORDER BY what user wants

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                                • L Lost User

                                  Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                  PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                  newton saber
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                                  _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                  Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                  :D Great summary. That's been my exact experience.

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                                    _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                    Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

                                    Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                                    mikepwilson
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                                    Yeah I really don't understand who uses it. Maybe people who have people dedicated to eclipse configuration. But it's just to cumbersome for it's own good.

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                      PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                      Munchies_Matt
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                                      It is a rare beast is it not? Especially the project configuration. It wouldn't be so bad, but it has to handle so many chip architecture!

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                        PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                        Rob Philpott
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                                        Eclipse? Are you being seduced by the dark side?

                                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                          PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          If this is the first time you've used it, you should feel blessed that you've never had to use it before.

                                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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