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  • L Lost User

    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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    CPallini
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    _Maxxx_ wrote:

    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

    And notepad as well.

    THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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      I wanted to test my Android article - so tried to remove Eclipse and start again. I was so tempted to just leave it uninstalled and forget the article! Still, my readers need me I want to win a prize. FTFM

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      Lost User
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      You might want to have a look at Android Developer Studio from Intellij IDEA https://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html[^]. (Updates available that linked product is a few days out of date)

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      • D DaveAuld

        Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

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        CPallini
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        I had (and still have).

        THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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        • M Marc Clifton

          _Maxxx_ wrote:

          Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

          Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

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          Dan Neely
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          I've have no idea what eclipse would call it (not invented here most likely); but tab Z order sounds right for any rational software stack.

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          • C CPallini

            _Maxxx_ wrote:

            Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

            And notepad as well.

            THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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            peterchen
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            That's Award-Winning Notepad for you: Clickety[^] (Followup[^])

            ORDER BY what user wants

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            • L Lost User

              Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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              newton saber
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              _Maxxx_ wrote:

              Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

              :D Great summary. That's been my exact experience.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                _Maxxx_ wrote:

                Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

                Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                mikepwilson
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                Yeah I really don't understand who uses it. Maybe people who have people dedicated to eclipse configuration. But it's just to cumbersome for it's own good.

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                • L Lost User

                  Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                  Munchies_Matt
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                  It is a rare beast is it not? Especially the project configuration. It wouldn't be so bad, but it has to handle so many chip architecture!

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                  • L Lost User

                    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                    Rob Philpott
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                    Eclipse? Are you being seduced by the dark side?

                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      If this is the first time you've used it, you should feel blessed that you've never had to use it before.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • L Lost User

                        Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                        Mike Hankey
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                        Eclipse does do a few things that VS doesn't do but it's still not worth the effort.

                        As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          As much as I am anti MS at times (use the XAML editor in VS for 5 mins to see why), overall as an IDE, VS is a really nice product. I may have to use plug-ins to get the functionality some others provide out of the box, but overall it just feels "cleaner" than most IDEs.

                          Jeremy Falcon

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                          • L Lost User

                            Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                            BobJanova
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                            Yeah Eclipse is really bad, always has been and still seems to be judging by my run in with the Android developer toolkit which is based on it. Its concept of 'workspace' is just bizarre and confuses me. I recommend IntelliJ's IDEA, I've used that in anger at work and it has a lot of really good stuff. It's where a lot of what is in Resharper comes from.

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                            • C CPallini

                              _Maxxx_ wrote:

                              Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                              And notepad as well.

                              THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                              Herbie Mountjoy
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                              Notepad++ is great for writing Java which can then be compiled using the command line.

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                              • L Lost User

                                Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                                Oleg A Lukin
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                                Too bad that IntelliJ Idea is not allowed as a part of contest. Even free community edition is better than that :) I'm biased I admit, used to work with Idea for about 10 years

                                Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies. T.Jefferson

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                                • L Lost User

                                  Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                  PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                  Lost User
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                                  I use VS2012/13 with Resharper (and a few other plugins) most of the time - although XCode is okay (probably good, if you'd never used VS), it's still a bit of culture shock each time I go back to it. At the moment VS seems to be Microsoft's best product (that I know of, at least) - I'm quite excited about what's coming up in VS14 :).

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                                    Too bad that IntelliJ Idea is not allowed as a part of contest. Even free community edition is better than that :) I'm biased I admit, used to work with Idea for about 10 years

                                    Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies. T.Jefferson

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                                    Lost User
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                                    Why do you say it's not allowed - I haven't noticed anything about that?

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                                    • Z ZurdoDev

                                      They give terrible gas.

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                                      As long as you don't get HemAndroids

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        DaveAuld wrote:

                                        Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

                                        It's on my list to try next. You're using Beaglebone's, right? Are you using Netbeans for cross compiling? Marc

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                                        Fabio Franco
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                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        It's on my list to try next.

                                        Please don't. It will spare you from several strokes and will allow you to have a longer life. If you're interested in cross compiling, just use MonoDevelop. Honestly

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                                        • R Rob Philpott

                                          Eclipse? Are you being seduced by the dark side?

                                          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                          Lost User
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                                          I'm not sure 'seduced' is the right word. more like 'gang-raped'

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