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  • L Lost User

    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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    It does rather put you off Android development, doesn't it? We are spoiled, it seems...

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      _Maxxx_ wrote:

      Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

      Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

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      I wanted to test my Android article - so tried to remove Eclipse and start again. I was so tempted to just leave it uninstalled and forget the article! Still, my readers need me I want to win a prize. FTFM

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        It does rather put you off Android development, doesn't it? We are spoiled, it seems...

        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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        I think it seems to be one of those projects that's got too big for its boots. I think the new google IDE might be better - but it means you have to write in Java ! Rock and Hard Place

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        • L Lost User

          I've never eaten them

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          They give terrible gas.

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          • D DaveAuld

            Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

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            Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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            beaten to a wind comment

            You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              DaveAuld wrote:

              Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

              It's on my list to try next. You're using Beaglebone's, right? Are you using Netbeans for cross compiling? Marc

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              I haven't got to the beaglebone yet! It is sat on my desk staring at me, next to a Raspi + Getboard, an Arduino and strangely a Netgear gigabit card ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and how could I forget a tin of Stewart Luxury Scottish Fudge. They Parallela boards are also still waiting, and now something else has got in the way. (more on that later...:suss:)

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                They give terrible gas.

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                That will be a Gas Cloud. i'll get my coat.

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                • D DaveAuld

                  That will be a Gas Cloud. i'll get my coat.

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  DaveAuld wrote:

                  That will be a Gas Cloud

                  Azure or Amazon? Or do they both stink? :-D

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  • D DaveAuld

                    I haven't got to the beaglebone yet! It is sat on my desk staring at me, next to a Raspi + Getboard, an Arduino and strangely a Netgear gigabit card ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and how could I forget a tin of Stewart Luxury Scottish Fudge. They Parallela boards are also still waiting, and now something else has got in the way. (more on that later...:suss:)

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Well, I await to hear your further adventures. I've been having fun getting the onboard UART to communicate to an MEI bill acceptor, which uses mark/space parity to distinguish between commands, data, and final checksum byte. And of course, only odd/even parity is supported by Debian even though the hardware supports mark/space. Oh, that was painful, but success was achieved! Marc

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                    • L Lost User

                      Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                      PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                      CPallini
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                      _Maxxx_ wrote:

                      Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                      And notepad as well.

                      THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                      • L Lost User

                        I wanted to test my Android article - so tried to remove Eclipse and start again. I was so tempted to just leave it uninstalled and forget the article! Still, my readers need me I want to win a prize. FTFM

                        PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                        You might want to have a look at Android Developer Studio from Intellij IDEA https://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html[^]. (Updates available that linked product is a few days out of date)

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                        • D DaveAuld

                          Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

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                          CPallini
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                          I had (and still have).

                          THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                            _Maxxx_ wrote:

                            Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                            Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

                            Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                            Dan Neely
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                            I've have no idea what eclipse would call it (not invented here most likely); but tab Z order sounds right for any rational software stack.

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                            • C CPallini

                              _Maxxx_ wrote:

                              Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                              And notepad as well.

                              THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                              That's Award-Winning Notepad for you: Clickety[^] (Followup[^])

                              ORDER BY what user wants

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                              • L Lost User

                                Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                newton saber
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                                _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                :D Great summary. That's been my exact experience.

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                                  _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                  Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                  Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

                                  Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                                  mikepwilson
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                                  Yeah I really don't understand who uses it. Maybe people who have people dedicated to eclipse configuration. But it's just to cumbersome for it's own good.

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                    PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                    Munchies_Matt
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                                    It is a rare beast is it not? Especially the project configuration. It wouldn't be so bad, but it has to handle so many chip architecture!

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                      PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                      Rob Philpott
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                                      Eclipse? Are you being seduced by the dark side?

                                      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                        PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                        Mark_Wallace
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                                        If this is the first time you've used it, you should feel blessed that you've never had to use it before.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                          PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                          Mike Hankey
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                                          Eclipse does do a few things that VS doesn't do but it's still not worth the effort.

                                          As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.

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