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  • D DaveAuld

    Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

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    Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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    beaten to a wind comment

    You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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      DaveAuld wrote:

      Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

      It's on my list to try next. You're using Beaglebone's, right? Are you using Netbeans for cross compiling? Marc

      Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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      I haven't got to the beaglebone yet! It is sat on my desk staring at me, next to a Raspi + Getboard, an Arduino and strangely a Netgear gigabit card ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and how could I forget a tin of Stewart Luxury Scottish Fudge. They Parallela boards are also still waiting, and now something else has got in the way. (more on that later...:suss:)

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        They give terrible gas.

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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        That will be a Gas Cloud. i'll get my coat.

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        • D DaveAuld

          That will be a Gas Cloud. i'll get my coat.

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          ZurdoDev
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          DaveAuld wrote:

          That will be a Gas Cloud

          Azure or Amazon? Or do they both stink? :-D

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          • D DaveAuld

            I haven't got to the beaglebone yet! It is sat on my desk staring at me, next to a Raspi + Getboard, an Arduino and strangely a Netgear gigabit card ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and how could I forget a tin of Stewart Luxury Scottish Fudge. They Parallela boards are also still waiting, and now something else has got in the way. (more on that later...:suss:)

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            Marc Clifton
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            Well, I await to hear your further adventures. I've been having fun getting the onboard UART to communicate to an MEI bill acceptor, which uses mark/space parity to distinguish between commands, data, and final checksum byte. And of course, only odd/even parity is supported by Debian even though the hardware supports mark/space. Oh, that was painful, but success was achieved! Marc

            Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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              Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

              PooperPig - Coming Soon

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              CPallini
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              _Maxxx_ wrote:

              Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

              And notepad as well.

              THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                I wanted to test my Android article - so tried to remove Eclipse and start again. I was so tempted to just leave it uninstalled and forget the article! Still, my readers need me I want to win a prize. FTFM

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                Lost User
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                You might want to have a look at Android Developer Studio from Intellij IDEA https://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html[^]. (Updates available that linked product is a few days out of date)

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                • D DaveAuld

                  Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

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                  CPallini
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                  I had (and still have).

                  THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                    _Maxxx_ wrote:

                    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                    Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

                    Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                    Dan Neely
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                    I've have no idea what eclipse would call it (not invented here most likely); but tab Z order sounds right for any rational software stack.

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                      _Maxxx_ wrote:

                      Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                      And notepad as well.

                      THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                      That's Award-Winning Notepad for you: Clickety[^] (Followup[^])

                      ORDER BY what user wants

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                      • L Lost User

                        Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                        PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                        newton saber
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                        _Maxxx_ wrote:

                        Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                        :D Great summary. That's been my exact experience.

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                          _Maxxx_ wrote:

                          Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                          Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

                          Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                          mikepwilson
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                          Yeah I really don't understand who uses it. Maybe people who have people dedicated to eclipse configuration. But it's just to cumbersome for it's own good.

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                            Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                            PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                            Munchies_Matt
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                            It is a rare beast is it not? Especially the project configuration. It wouldn't be so bad, but it has to handle so many chip architecture!

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                              Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                              PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                              Rob Philpott
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                              Eclipse? Are you being seduced by the dark side?

                              Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                If this is the first time you've used it, you should feel blessed that you've never had to use it before.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                  PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                  Mike Hankey
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                                  Eclipse does do a few things that VS doesn't do but it's still not worth the effort.

                                  As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.

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                                    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                    PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                    Jeremy Falcon
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                                    As much as I am anti MS at times (use the XAML editor in VS for 5 mins to see why), overall as an IDE, VS is a really nice product. I may have to use plug-ins to get the functionality some others provide out of the box, but overall it just feels "cleaner" than most IDEs.

                                    Jeremy Falcon

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                                      Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                      PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                      BobJanova
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                                      Yeah Eclipse is really bad, always has been and still seems to be judging by my run in with the Android developer toolkit which is based on it. Its concept of 'workspace' is just bizarre and confuses me. I recommend IntelliJ's IDEA, I've used that in anger at work and it has a lot of really good stuff. It's where a lot of what is in Resharper comes from.

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                                        _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                        Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                        And notepad as well.

                                        THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                                        Herbie Mountjoy
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                                        Notepad++ is great for writing Java which can then be compiled using the command line.

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                                          Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                          PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                          Oleg A Lukin
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                                          Too bad that IntelliJ Idea is not allowed as a part of contest. Even free community edition is better than that :) I'm biased I admit, used to work with Idea for about 10 years

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