Eclipse
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It does rather put you off Android development, doesn't it? We are spoiled, it seems...
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DaveAuld wrote:
Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?
It's on my list to try next. You're using Beaglebone's, right? Are you using Netbeans for cross compiling? Marc
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I haven't got to the beaglebone yet! It is sat on my desk staring at me, next to a Raspi + Getboard, an Arduino and strangely a Netgear gigabit card ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and how could I forget a tin of Stewart Luxury Scottish Fudge. They Parallela boards are also still waiting, and now something else has got in the way. (more on that later...:suss:)
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They give terrible gas.
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I haven't got to the beaglebone yet! It is sat on my desk staring at me, next to a Raspi + Getboard, an Arduino and strangely a Netgear gigabit card ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and how could I forget a tin of Stewart Luxury Scottish Fudge. They Parallela boards are also still waiting, and now something else has got in the way. (more on that later...:suss:)
Well, I await to hear your further adventures. I've been having fun getting the onboard UART to communicate to an MEI bill acceptor, which uses mark/space parity to distinguish between commands, data, and final checksum byte. And of course, only odd/even parity is supported by Debian even though the hardware supports mark/space. Oh, that was painful, but success was achieved! Marc
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!
And notepad as well.
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I wanted to test my Android article - so tried to remove Eclipse and start again. I was so tempted to just leave it uninstalled and forget the article! Still, my readers need me I want to win a prize. FTFM
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I had (and still have).
THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!
Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc
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I've have no idea what eclipse would call it (not invented here most likely); but tab Z order sounds right for any rational software stack.
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!
And notepad as well.
THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!
:D Great summary. That's been my exact experience.
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!
Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc
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Yeah I really don't understand who uses it. Maybe people who have people dedicated to eclipse configuration. But it's just to cumbersome for it's own good.
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It is a rare beast is it not? Especially the project configuration. It wouldn't be so bad, but it has to handle so many chip architecture!
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Eclipse? Are you being seduced by the dark side?
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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If this is the first time you've used it, you should feel blessed that you've never had to use it before.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Eclipse does do a few things that VS doesn't do but it's still not worth the effort.
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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As much as I am anti MS at times (use the XAML editor in VS for 5 mins to see why), overall as an IDE, VS is a really nice product. I may have to use plug-ins to get the functionality some others provide out of the box, but overall it just feels "cleaner" than most IDEs.
Jeremy Falcon
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Yeah Eclipse is really bad, always has been and still seems to be judging by my run in with the Android developer toolkit which is based on it. Its concept of 'workspace' is just bizarre and confuses me. I recommend IntelliJ's IDEA, I've used that in anger at work and it has a lot of really good stuff. It's where a lot of what is in Resharper comes from.
