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  • M Marc Clifton

    _Maxxx_ wrote:

    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

    Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

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    I wanted to test my Android article - so tried to remove Eclipse and start again. I was so tempted to just leave it uninstalled and forget the article! Still, my readers need me I want to win a prize. FTFM

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      I've never eaten them

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      They give terrible gas.

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        It does rather put you off Android development, doesn't it? We are spoiled, it seems...

        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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        I think it seems to be one of those projects that's got too big for its boots. I think the new google IDE might be better - but it means you have to write in Java ! Rock and Hard Place

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        • D DaveAuld

          Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

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          beaten to a wind comment

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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          • M Marc Clifton

            DaveAuld wrote:

            Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

            It's on my list to try next. You're using Beaglebone's, right? Are you using Netbeans for cross compiling? Marc

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            I haven't got to the beaglebone yet! It is sat on my desk staring at me, next to a Raspi + Getboard, an Arduino and strangely a Netgear gigabit card ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and how could I forget a tin of Stewart Luxury Scottish Fudge. They Parallela boards are also still waiting, and now something else has got in the way. (more on that later...:suss:)

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              They give terrible gas.

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              That will be a Gas Cloud. i'll get my coat.

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                That will be a Gas Cloud. i'll get my coat.

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                ZurdoDev
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                DaveAuld wrote:

                That will be a Gas Cloud

                Azure or Amazon? Or do they both stink? :-D

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                • D DaveAuld

                  I haven't got to the beaglebone yet! It is sat on my desk staring at me, next to a Raspi + Getboard, an Arduino and strangely a Netgear gigabit card ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and how could I forget a tin of Stewart Luxury Scottish Fudge. They Parallela boards are also still waiting, and now something else has got in the way. (more on that later...:suss:)

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  Well, I await to hear your further adventures. I've been having fun getting the onboard UART to communicate to an MEI bill acceptor, which uses mark/space parity to distinguish between commands, data, and final checksum byte. And of course, only odd/even parity is supported by Debian even though the hardware supports mark/space. Oh, that was painful, but success was achieved! Marc

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                  • L Lost User

                    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                    CPallini
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                    _Maxxx_ wrote:

                    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                    And notepad as well.

                    THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                      I wanted to test my Android article - so tried to remove Eclipse and start again. I was so tempted to just leave it uninstalled and forget the article! Still, my readers need me I want to win a prize. FTFM

                      PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                      You might want to have a look at Android Developer Studio from Intellij IDEA https://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html[^]. (Updates available that linked product is a few days out of date)

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                      • D DaveAuld

                        Have you had the same feeling with Netbeans?

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                        CPallini
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                        I had (and still have).

                        THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          _Maxxx_ wrote:

                          Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                          Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

                          Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                          Dan Neely
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                          I've have no idea what eclipse would call it (not invented here most likely); but tab Z order sounds right for any rational software stack.

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                            _Maxxx_ wrote:

                            Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                            And notepad as well.

                            THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?! -- C++ FQA Lite

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                            That's Award-Winning Notepad for you: Clickety[^] (Followup[^])

                            ORDER BY what user wants

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                              Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                              newton saber
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                              _Maxxx_ wrote:

                              Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                              :D Great summary. That's been my exact experience.

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse. And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option. The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!! Marc

                                Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                                mikepwilson
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                                Yeah I really don't understand who uses it. Maybe people who have people dedicated to eclipse configuration. But it's just to cumbersome for it's own good.

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                                  Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                                  Munchies_Matt
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                                  It is a rare beast is it not? Especially the project configuration. It wouldn't be so bad, but it has to handle so many chip architecture!

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                                    Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                                    Rob Philpott
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                                    Eclipse? Are you being seduced by the dark side?

                                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                      Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      If this is the first time you've used it, you should feel blessed that you've never had to use it before.

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                                        Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

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                                        Mike Hankey
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                                        Eclipse does do a few things that VS doesn't do but it's still not worth the effort.

                                        As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.

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                                          Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!

                                          PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                          Jeremy Falcon
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                                          As much as I am anti MS at times (use the XAML editor in VS for 5 mins to see why), overall as an IDE, VS is a really nice product. I may have to use plug-ins to get the functionality some others provide out of the box, but overall it just feels "cleaner" than most IDEs.

                                          Jeremy Falcon

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