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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    FTFY :-)

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    He's busy with a number of cunning stunts.

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      So whenever I'm writing I often wonder about all kinds of small and silly language details. I just wondered what the (more?) correct translation of the Dutch word 'ingevuld' is. My first thought was 'fill out' (as in "can you fill out this questionnaire?"). Then I though 'fill in' (as in "can you fill in this questionnaire?"). Google Translate just gives me 'fill' when I give it 'invullen'. I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites... Of course 'fill in' can also be used in the following sentence: "Can you fill me in on the details?", where 'fill out' would be a no-go: "Can you fill me out on the details?". Any ideas on what I should use? In or out?

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      Yvan Rodrigues
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      **Fill in** and **fill out** are both correct, but are a bit informal. In a technical manual I would use something like: * Please **complete** this questionnaire. * Please **answer** this questionnaire. * Please **respond to** this questionnaire. * Can you **explain** the details to me? * Can you **update** me on the details? etc.

      Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        Is there a gender issue as well? As in "she really fills out that dress" or "he quickly filled in the shallow grave" ?

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        And why not "she quickly filled in the shallow grave"? Or even, "he really fills out that dress"? Or have you never seen Sean on a Saturday night? ;)


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          He's busy with a number of cunning stunts.

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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          Yvan Rodrigues
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          I dare you to quickly repeat that 10 times.

          Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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            I dare you to quickly repeat that 10 times.

            Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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            cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts There - happy? :laugh:

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

              And why not "she quickly filled in the shallow grave"? Or even, "he really fills out that dress"? Or have you never seen Sean on a Saturday night? ;)


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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              Richard Deeming wrote:

              Or have you never seen Sean on a Saturday night Casual Friday?

              FTFY!

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • Y Yvan Rodrigues

                **Fill in** and **fill out** are both correct, but are a bit informal. In a technical manual I would use something like: * Please **complete** this questionnaire. * Please **answer** this questionnaire. * Please **respond to** this questionnaire. * Can you **explain** the details to me? * Can you **update** me on the details? etc.

                Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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                newton saber
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                I agree. The winner is...

                Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

                Please complete this questionnaire.

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  Is there a gender issue as well? As in "she really fills out that dress" or "he quickly filled in the shallow grave" ?

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                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                  As in "she really fills out that dress" or "he quickly filled in the shallow grave" ?

                  The relationship between the two occurs when replying to the question; "Does this xxx make my butt look big?"

                  New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.1 new web site. I know the voices in my head are not real but damn they come up with some good ideas!

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                    I agree. The winner is...

                    Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

                    Please complete this questionnaire.

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    It's already complete.

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                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                      As in "she really fills out that dress" or "he quickly filled in the shallow grave" ?

                      The relationship between the two occurs when replying to the question; "Does this xxx make my butt look big?"

                      New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.1 new web site. I know the voices in my head are not real but damn they come up with some good ideas!

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                      Richard Deeming
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                      That's a different interpretation of "filling in". To me, it suggests the person filling it in with a shovel, not the person "filling it in" with their own mangled corpse! :-\


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts cunning stunts There - happy? :laugh:

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                        Richard Deeming
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                        Now try "ox boll". ;P


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Richard Deeming wrote:

                          Or have you never seen Sean on a Saturday night Casual Friday?

                          FTFY!

                          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          A dress on Casual Friday? Are you mad? Sean would never pass on a chance for getting out the peek-a-doo onesie!

                          veni bibi saltavi

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            So whenever I'm writing I often wonder about all kinds of small and silly language details. I just wondered what the (more?) correct translation of the Dutch word 'ingevuld' is. My first thought was 'fill out' (as in "can you fill out this questionnaire?"). Then I though 'fill in' (as in "can you fill in this questionnaire?"). Google Translate just gives me 'fill' when I give it 'invullen'. I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites... Of course 'fill in' can also be used in the following sentence: "Can you fill me in on the details?", where 'fill out' would be a no-go: "Can you fill me out on the details?". Any ideas on what I should use? In or out?

                            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                            Regards, Sander

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            http://www.in-n-out.com/ It was a popular thing, when they sold bumper stickers, to remove the "B" and the "R". ;) Marc

                            Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              So whenever I'm writing I often wonder about all kinds of small and silly language details. I just wondered what the (more?) correct translation of the Dutch word 'ingevuld' is. My first thought was 'fill out' (as in "can you fill out this questionnaire?"). Then I though 'fill in' (as in "can you fill in this questionnaire?"). Google Translate just gives me 'fill' when I give it 'invullen'. I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites... Of course 'fill in' can also be used in the following sentence: "Can you fill me in on the details?", where 'fill out' would be a no-go: "Can you fill me out on the details?". Any ideas on what I should use? In or out?

                              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                              Regards, Sander

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                              Roger Wright
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                              Though I've been called a cunning linguist by some, the only answer I can think of at this time is, "complete."

                              Will Rogers never met me.

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                So whenever I'm writing I often wonder about all kinds of small and silly language details. I just wondered what the (more?) correct translation of the Dutch word 'ingevuld' is. My first thought was 'fill out' (as in "can you fill out this questionnaire?"). Then I though 'fill in' (as in "can you fill in this questionnaire?"). Google Translate just gives me 'fill' when I give it 'invullen'. I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites... Of course 'fill in' can also be used in the following sentence: "Can you fill me in on the details?", where 'fill out' would be a no-go: "Can you fill me out on the details?". Any ideas on what I should use? In or out?

                                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                Regards, Sander

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                                What is the difference between filling out and filling in a questionnaire? It is "ingevuld", "filled in".

                                Sander Rossel wrote:

                                I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites...

                                As you already said yourself, 'fill out on details' is a no go - spoken language is not coherently logical.

                                Sander Rossel wrote:

                                In or out?

                                Throw 'filled out' into GTrans and have your answer.

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                                • Y Yvan Rodrigues

                                  **Fill in** and **fill out** are both correct, but are a bit informal. In a technical manual I would use something like: * Please **complete** this questionnaire. * Please **answer** this questionnaire. * Please **respond to** this questionnaire. * Can you **explain** the details to me? * Can you **update** me on the details? etc.

                                  Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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                                  Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

                                  Please answer this questionnaire.

                                  It did not ask me a question, it is a list of questions.

                                  Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

                                  Please respond to this questionnaire.

                                  My old English teach would ask what kind of response I'd be expecting from the piece of paper :) I could respond to your request to fill out the form. You can fill out the form by filling in your answer to each question.

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    So whenever I'm writing I often wonder about all kinds of small and silly language details. I just wondered what the (more?) correct translation of the Dutch word 'ingevuld' is. My first thought was 'fill out' (as in "can you fill out this questionnaire?"). Then I though 'fill in' (as in "can you fill in this questionnaire?"). Google Translate just gives me 'fill' when I give it 'invullen'. I think both are correct even though 'in' and 'out' are each others opposites... Of course 'fill in' can also be used in the following sentence: "Can you fill me in on the details?", where 'fill out' would be a no-go: "Can you fill me out on the details?". Any ideas on what I should use? In or out?

                                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                    Regards, Sander

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                                    "Fill in" really means "put down so there's nothing wanting". So there's a great amount of leeway left to chance in the directive. This is not a lecture but you shouldn't let your mind wander in this way. Concentrate.

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                                    • Y Yvan Rodrigues

                                      **Fill in** and **fill out** are both correct, but are a bit informal. In a technical manual I would use something like: * Please **complete** this questionnaire. * Please **answer** this questionnaire. * Please **respond to** this questionnaire. * Can you **explain** the details to me? * Can you **update** me on the details? etc.

                                      Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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                                      Sander Rossel
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                                      Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

                                      Please complete this questionnaire.

                                      I've already completed it. All I need is for the user to fill it in/out :)

                                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                      Regards, Sander

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                                        http://www.in-n-out.com/ It was a popular thing, when they sold bumper stickers, to remove the "B" and the "R". ;) Marc

                                        Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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                                        Sander Rossel
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                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        to remove the "B" and the "R"

                                        In-N-Out uge :confused:

                                        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                        Regards, Sander

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                                        • R Roger Wright

                                          Though I've been called a cunning linguist by some, the only answer I can think of at this time is, "complete."

                                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                                          Sander Rossel
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                                          I won't be complete until I know the difference between fill in and fill out and why two opposites are used for the same thing :D

                                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                          Regards, Sander

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