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  • I Ian Shlasko

    A man? I thought you was a toad

    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
    Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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    Do .. not .. seek the treasure!

    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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    • R realJSOP

      Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      Kent Sharkey
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      I haven't used it, but I understand that there is an article in next month's MSDN Magazine about it (should be on the site on Monday). Julie Lerman (she of much EF writing) liked it.

      TTFN - Kent

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        Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        Lost User
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        Yep. It's relatively easy to use, but also not too powerful. It does a good job of abstracting away the database, but not much more. At least it's not a memory hog and does not slow down things too much.

        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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          Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          Slacker007
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          EF 6 has more optimizations than before, and is more powerful IMHO then 4 or 5. Any reason why you can't use that?

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            EF 6 has more optimizations than before, and is more powerful IMHO then 4 or 5. Any reason why you can't use that?

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            realJSOP
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            Slacker007 wrote:

            EF 6 has ... Any reason why you can't use that?

            It's from Microsoft.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Comments? Opinions?

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Richard Deeming
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              Very good. It's not trying to do everything, like EF or NHibernate; it just makes certain tasks with raw ADO.NET a lot easier.


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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              • R realJSOP

                Slacker007 wrote:

                EF 6 has ... Any reason why you can't use that?

                It's from Microsoft.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                -----
                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                Slacker007
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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                It's from Microsoft.

                Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.

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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  It's from Microsoft.

                  Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Dapper is written in C# which is from Microsoft too :-)

                  Regards, Nish


                  Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    Dapper is written in C# which is from Microsoft too :-)

                    Regards, Nish


                    Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    Slacker007
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                    :-D I rest my case.

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                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      It's from Microsoft.

                      Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.

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                      realJSOP
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                      Slacker007 wrote:

                      Well, that is not really a good reason.

                      It's always been a good reason in the past. And I like living in the past.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        Dapper is written in C# which is from Microsoft too :-)

                        Regards, Nish


                        Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                        realJSOP
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                        C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          It's from Microsoft.

                          Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.

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                          realJSOP
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                          Besides all of the above, I didn't ask if anyone had used EF.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            Besides all of the above, I didn't ask if anyone had used EF.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            Slacker007
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                            Fair enough, John.

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                            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                              Very good. It's not trying to do everything, like EF or NHibernate; it just makes certain tasks with raw ADO.NET a lot easier.


                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                              realJSOP
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                              I looked in NuGet, and there's a crapload of dapper-related stuff in there. What's worth getting?

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                Sascha Lefevre
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                                I'm no Java guy but observing the news Kent posts about Java language development it looks like the table has turned and Java becomes a copy of C# ;P More on topic: If you're looking for a non-Microsoft "heavy" ORM then I would suggest to take a look at VITA[^]. I haven't used it myself yet but it sounds really good.

                                If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                  I looked in NuGet, and there's a crapload of dapper-related stuff in there. What's worth getting?

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  Richard Deeming
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                                  I've only used the core package[^] so far. Dapper.Contrib[^] looks interesting, and is maintained by the same team: Dapper.Contrib - more extensions for dapper[^]


                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                    Fair enough, John.

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                      BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                      Sascha Lefevre
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                                      It most certainly is - but that's apples and oranges.

                                      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                        BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                        Slacker007
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                                        I have heard of Dapper, and that is about all. I have the most experience with EF but I am not going on the record to say that it is the best. I'm sure there are applications best suited for Dapper. I found this to be interesting. The conclusion at the end is the most important. Dapper looks to be faster in a lot of respects. Interesting. Don't Panic Labs – Speed Comparison: Dapper vs Entity Framework[^] Looks like Stackoverflow uses Dapper.

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                                          BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                                          Regards, Nish


                                          Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                          Jorgen Andersson
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                                          The difference is big! If you want faster you have to run your own, like I did.

                                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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