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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    Kent Sharkey
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    I haven't used it, but I understand that there is an article in next month's MSDN Magazine about it (should be on the site on Monday). Julie Lerman (she of much EF writing) liked it.

    TTFN - Kent

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
      -----
      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
      -----
      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      Lost User
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      Yep. It's relatively easy to use, but also not too powerful. It does a good job of abstracting away the database, but not much more. At least it's not a memory hog and does not slow down things too much.

      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
        -----
        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
        -----
        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        Slacker007
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        EF 6 has more optimizations than before, and is more powerful IMHO then 4 or 5. Any reason why you can't use that?

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          EF 6 has more optimizations than before, and is more powerful IMHO then 4 or 5. Any reason why you can't use that?

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          realJSOP
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          Slacker007 wrote:

          EF 6 has ... Any reason why you can't use that?

          It's from Microsoft.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            Comments? Opinions?

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            Richard Deeming
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            Very good. It's not trying to do everything, like EF or NHibernate; it just makes certain tasks with raw ADO.NET a lot easier.


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              Slacker007 wrote:

              EF 6 has ... Any reason why you can't use that?

              It's from Microsoft.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Slacker007
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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              It's from Microsoft.

              Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                It's from Microsoft.

                Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.

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                Nish Nishant
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                Dapper is written in C# which is from Microsoft too :-)

                Regards, Nish


                Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  Dapper is written in C# which is from Microsoft too :-)

                  Regards, Nish


                  Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  Slacker007
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                  :-D I rest my case.

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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    It's from Microsoft.

                    Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.

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                    realJSOP
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                    Slacker007 wrote:

                    Well, that is not really a good reason.

                    It's always been a good reason in the past. And I like living in the past.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      Dapper is written in C# which is from Microsoft too :-)

                      Regards, Nish


                      Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                      realJSOP
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                      C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        It's from Microsoft.

                        Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.

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                        realJSOP
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                        Besides all of the above, I didn't ask if anyone had used EF.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          Besides all of the above, I didn't ask if anyone had used EF.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          Slacker007
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                          Fair enough, John.

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                          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                            Very good. It's not trying to do everything, like EF or NHibernate; it just makes certain tasks with raw ADO.NET a lot easier.


                            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                            realJSOP
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                            I looked in NuGet, and there's a crapload of dapper-related stuff in there. What's worth getting?

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            • realJSOPR realJSOP

                              C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              Sascha Lefevre
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                              I'm no Java guy but observing the news Kent posts about Java language development it looks like the table has turned and Java becomes a copy of C# ;P More on topic: If you're looking for a non-Microsoft "heavy" ORM then I would suggest to take a look at VITA[^]. I haven't used it myself yet but it sounds really good.

                              If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                I looked in NuGet, and there's a crapload of dapper-related stuff in there. What's worth getting?

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                Richard Deeming
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                                I've only used the core package[^] so far. Dapper.Contrib[^] looks interesting, and is maintained by the same team: Dapper.Contrib - more extensions for dapper[^]


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                  Fair enough, John.

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                    BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                    Sascha Lefevre
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                                    It most certainly is - but that's apples and oranges.

                                    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                      BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                      Slacker007
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                                      I have heard of Dapper, and that is about all. I have the most experience with EF but I am not going on the record to say that it is the best. I'm sure there are applications best suited for Dapper. I found this to be interesting. The conclusion at the end is the most important. Dapper looks to be faster in a lot of respects. Interesting. Don't Panic Labs – Speed Comparison: Dapper vs Entity Framework[^] Looks like Stackoverflow uses Dapper.

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                                        BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                        Jorgen Andersson
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                                        The difference is big! If you want faster you have to run your own, like I did.

                                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          Slacker007 wrote:

                                          EF 6 has ... Any reason why you can't use that?

                                          It's from Microsoft.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                          David Crow
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                                          Aren't .NET and Mono both from Microsoft, or are you targeting some other platform?

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