Dapper
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
It's from Microsoft.
Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.
Slacker007 wrote:
Well, that is not really a good reason.
It's always been a good reason in the past. And I like living in the past.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Dapper is written in C# which is from Microsoft too :-)
Regards, Nish
Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
It's from Microsoft.
Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.
Besides all of the above, I didn't ask if anyone had used EF.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Besides all of the above, I didn't ask if anyone had used EF.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Fair enough, John.
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Very good. It's not trying to do everything, like EF or NHibernate; it just makes certain tasks with raw ADO.NET a lot easier.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
I looked in NuGet, and there's a crapload of dapper-related stuff in there. What's worth getting?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I'm no Java guy but observing the news Kent posts about Java language development it looks like the table has turned and Java becomes a copy of C# ;P More on topic: If you're looking for a non-Microsoft "heavy" ORM then I would suggest to take a look at VITA[^]. I haven't used it myself yet but it sounds really good.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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I looked in NuGet, and there's a crapload of dapper-related stuff in there. What's worth getting?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I've only used the core package[^] so far. Dapper.Contrib[^] looks interesting, and is maintained by the same team: Dapper.Contrib - more extensions for dapper[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Fair enough, John.
BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.
Regards, Nish
Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.
Regards, Nish
Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
It most certainly is - but that's apples and oranges.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.
Regards, Nish
Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
I have heard of Dapper, and that is about all. I have the most experience with EF but I am not going on the record to say that it is the best. I'm sure there are applications best suited for Dapper. I found this to be interesting. The conclusion at the end is the most important. Dapper looks to be faster in a lot of respects. Interesting. Don't Panic Labs – Speed Comparison: Dapper vs Entity Framework[^] Looks like Stackoverflow uses Dapper.
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BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.
Regards, Nish
Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
The difference is big! If you want faster you have to run your own, like I did.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Slacker007 wrote:
EF 6 has ... Any reason why you can't use that?
It's from Microsoft.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Aren't .NET and Mono both from Microsoft, or are you targeting some other platform?
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Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Not that one, but I have used something called 'PetaPoco', which is kinda based on Dapper. The nice thing, to me, is it is a single .cs file that can be included right in you solution. He also has a later version that is a normal assembly. You will probably need to google 'PetaPoco' to find it.
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I haven't used it, but I understand that there is an article in next month's MSDN Magazine about it (should be on the site on Monday). Julie Lerman (she of much EF writing) liked it.
TTFN - Kent
If Julie is s fan then that is a pretty big endorsement.
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Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I've used it a lot. It's excellent, but in large projects its best used with some form of POCO-generator such as Codesmith to auto-generate your DAL classes on your build server. Dapper is very fast and, even more importantly IMO, it doesn't get in your way.
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Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I've used Dapper a few times. I really like it and as others have said it generally gets out of the way and works well at mapping your sql to an object or collection of objects. I use it with Dapper extensions which makes simple selecting/updating etc pretty simple. I invested a lot of time in learning EF and it was hard to make the move but honestly I've never found a need to go back to using EF. EF seems overly complex, at least for my needs and I fail to see a good reason for using EF over a micro orm like Dapper or PetaPoco (which i also like).
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C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Slacker007 wrote:
Well, that is not really a good reason.
It's always been a good reason in the past. And I like living in the past.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
What do you use instead of Visual Studio?
The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!
I use edlin to edit my code, and manually compile everything (yeah it takes a lot longer, but it's hella efficient code).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I use edlin to edit my code, and manually compile everything (yeah it takes a lot longer, but it's hella efficient code).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
