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  • R realJSOP

    Besides all of the above, I didn't ask if anyone had used EF.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    Slacker007
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    Fair enough, John.

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    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

      Very good. It's not trying to do everything, like EF or NHibernate; it just makes certain tasks with raw ADO.NET a lot easier.


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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      realJSOP
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      I looked in NuGet, and there's a crapload of dapper-related stuff in there. What's worth getting?

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      • R realJSOP

        C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        Sascha Lefevre
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        I'm no Java guy but observing the news Kent posts about Java language development it looks like the table has turned and Java becomes a copy of C# ;P More on topic: If you're looking for a non-Microsoft "heavy" ORM then I would suggest to take a look at VITA[^]. I haven't used it myself yet but it sounds really good.

        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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        • R realJSOP

          I looked in NuGet, and there's a crapload of dapper-related stuff in there. What's worth getting?

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          Richard Deeming
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          I've only used the core package[^] so far. Dapper.Contrib[^] looks interesting, and is maintained by the same team: Dapper.Contrib - more extensions for dapper[^]


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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          • S Slacker007

            Fair enough, John.

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            Nish Nishant
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            BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

            Regards, Nish


            Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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            • N Nish Nishant

              BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

              Regards, Nish


              Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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              Sascha Lefevre
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              It most certainly is - but that's apples and oranges.

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              • N Nish Nishant

                BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                Regards, Nish


                Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                Slacker007
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                I have heard of Dapper, and that is about all. I have the most experience with EF but I am not going on the record to say that it is the best. I'm sure there are applications best suited for Dapper. I found this to be interesting. The conclusion at the end is the most important. Dapper looks to be faster in a lot of respects. Interesting. Don't Panic Labs – Speed Comparison: Dapper vs Entity Framework[^] Looks like Stackoverflow uses Dapper.

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                  Regards, Nish


                  Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  The difference is big! If you want faster you have to run your own, like I did.

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                  • R realJSOP

                    Slacker007 wrote:

                    EF 6 has ... Any reason why you can't use that?

                    It's from Microsoft.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    David Crow
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                    Aren't .NET and Mono both from Microsoft, or are you targeting some other platform?

                    "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                    "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                    "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                    • R realJSOP

                      Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      stoneyowl2
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                      Not that one, but I have used something called 'PetaPoco', which is kinda based on Dapper. The nice thing, to me, is it is a single .cs file that can be included right in you solution. He also has a later version that is a normal assembly. You will probably need to google 'PetaPoco' to find it.

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                      • K Kent Sharkey

                        I haven't used it, but I understand that there is an article in next month's MSDN Magazine about it (should be on the site on Monday). Julie Lerman (she of much EF writing) liked it.

                        TTFN - Kent

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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        If Julie is s fan then that is a pretty big endorsement.

                        veni bibi saltavi

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                        • R realJSOP

                          Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          pt1401
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                          I've used it a lot. It's excellent, but in large projects its best used with some form of POCO-generator such as Codesmith to auto-generate your DAL classes on your build server. Dapper is very fast and, even more importantly IMO, it doesn't get in your way.

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                          • R realJSOP

                            Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            Ste S
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                            I've used Dapper a few times. I really like it and as others have said it generally gets out of the way and works well at mapping your sql to an object or collection of objects. I use it with Dapper extensions which makes simple selecting/updating etc pretty simple. I invested a lot of time in learning EF and it was hard to make the move but honestly I've never found a need to go back to using EF. EF seems overly complex, at least for my needs and I fail to see a good reason for using EF over a micro orm like Dapper or PetaPoco (which i also like).

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                            • R realJSOP

                              C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              Lost User
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                              I just finished a small project running ASP.NET 5 on a Docker container running Ubunutu hosted in Azure :rose: Exciting times ahead I think :)

                              The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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                              • R realJSOP

                                Slacker007 wrote:

                                Well, that is not really a good reason.

                                It's always been a good reason in the past. And I like living in the past.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                Lost User
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                                What do you use instead of Visual Studio?

                                The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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                                  What do you use instead of Visual Studio?

                                  The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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                                  realJSOP
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                                  I use edlin to edit my code, and manually compile everything (yeah it takes a lot longer, but it's hella efficient code).

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  • R realJSOP

                                    I use edlin to edit my code, and manually compile everything (yeah it takes a lot longer, but it's hella efficient code).

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    Lost User
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                                    Wow, that looks like the hard way of doing things[^] :laugh: I guess you're paid by the hour? :laugh:

                                    The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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                                      Wow, that looks like the hard way of doing things[^] :laugh: I guess you're paid by the hour? :laugh:

                                      The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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                                      realJSOP
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                                      Most things that are worth doing start out hard. And that's true for so many things in life. :)

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                      • D David Crow

                                        Aren't .NET and Mono both from Microsoft, or are you targeting some other platform?

                                        "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                                        "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                                        "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                                        realJSOP
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                                        I was just making a comment. I'm not targeting anything.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        • R realJSOP

                                          Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                          Mark Jerzykowski
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                                          I use it. We wrote a slightly bigger ORM thing to go on top of it: Dashing[^] And yes, much time was spent on the name.

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