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  • N Nish Nishant

    BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

    Regards, Nish


    Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    The difference is big! If you want faster you have to run your own, like I did.

    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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    • R realJSOP

      Slacker007 wrote:

      EF 6 has ... Any reason why you can't use that?

      It's from Microsoft.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      David Crow
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      Aren't .NET and Mono both from Microsoft, or are you targeting some other platform?

      "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

      "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

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      • R realJSOP

        Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        stoneyowl2
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        Not that one, but I have used something called 'PetaPoco', which is kinda based on Dapper. The nice thing, to me, is it is a single .cs file that can be included right in you solution. He also has a later version that is a normal assembly. You will probably need to google 'PetaPoco' to find it.

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        • K Kent Sharkey

          I haven't used it, but I understand that there is an article in next month's MSDN Magazine about it (should be on the site on Monday). Julie Lerman (she of much EF writing) liked it.

          TTFN - Kent

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          If Julie is s fan then that is a pretty big endorsement.

          veni bibi saltavi

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          • R realJSOP

            Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            pt1401
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            I've used it a lot. It's excellent, but in large projects its best used with some form of POCO-generator such as Codesmith to auto-generate your DAL classes on your build server. Dapper is very fast and, even more importantly IMO, it doesn't get in your way.

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            • R realJSOP

              Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Ste S
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              I've used Dapper a few times. I really like it and as others have said it generally gets out of the way and works well at mapping your sql to an object or collection of objects. I use it with Dapper extensions which makes simple selecting/updating etc pretty simple. I invested a lot of time in learning EF and it was hard to make the move but honestly I've never found a need to go back to using EF. EF seems overly complex, at least for my needs and I fail to see a good reason for using EF over a micro orm like Dapper or PetaPoco (which i also like).

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              • R realJSOP

                C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                Lost User
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                I just finished a small project running ASP.NET 5 on a Docker container running Ubunutu hosted in Azure :rose: Exciting times ahead I think :)

                The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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                • R realJSOP

                  Slacker007 wrote:

                  Well, that is not really a good reason.

                  It's always been a good reason in the past. And I like living in the past.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Lost User
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                  What do you use instead of Visual Studio?

                  The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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                    What do you use instead of Visual Studio?

                    The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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                    realJSOP
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                    I use edlin to edit my code, and manually compile everything (yeah it takes a lot longer, but it's hella efficient code).

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    • R realJSOP

                      I use edlin to edit my code, and manually compile everything (yeah it takes a lot longer, but it's hella efficient code).

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      Lost User
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                      Wow, that looks like the hard way of doing things[^] :laugh: I guess you're paid by the hour? :laugh:

                      The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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                      • L Lost User

                        Wow, that looks like the hard way of doing things[^] :laugh: I guess you're paid by the hour? :laugh:

                        The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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                        realJSOP
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                        Most things that are worth doing start out hard. And that's true for so many things in life. :)

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        • D David Crow

                          Aren't .NET and Mono both from Microsoft, or are you targeting some other platform?

                          "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                          "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                          "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                          realJSOP
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                          I was just making a comment. I'm not targeting anything.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          • R realJSOP

                            Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            Mark Jerzykowski
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                            I use it. We wrote a slightly bigger ORM thing to go on top of it: Dashing[^] And yes, much time was spent on the name.

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                            • S Slacker007

                              I have heard of Dapper, and that is about all. I have the most experience with EF but I am not going on the record to say that it is the best. I'm sure there are applications best suited for Dapper. I found this to be interesting. The conclusion at the end is the most important. Dapper looks to be faster in a lot of respects. Interesting. Don't Panic Labs – Speed Comparison: Dapper vs Entity Framework[^] Looks like Stackoverflow uses Dapper.

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                              andegre
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                              Dapper is considerably faster than EF. And I also believe that it was written BY Stackoverflow. GitHub - StackExchange/dapper-dot-net: Dapper - a simple object mapper for .Net[^]

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                              • N Nish Nishant

                                Dapper is written in C# which is from Microsoft too :-)

                                Regards, Nish


                                Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                Snorri Kristjansson
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                                He he - there is no escaping - is there?

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                                • R realJSOP

                                  Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  Caspian Canuck
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                                  I've been using Dapper's spinoff NPoco for a couple of years in a large work project and it's worked out mostly great. The good: 1. Lightning fast, just a fraction slower than bare-bones ADO.NET. 2. No surprise SQL, you know exactly what SQL is sent to the server because you wrote it yourself (unless it's a simple single-table CRUD operation that NPoco generates itself). 3. Latest versions come with Linq expressions support. Back when our project got started there was no Linq support in NPoco and I ended up writing my own Linq-like repository wrapper. (I've made several other customizations to NPoco not all of which have made it into the official codebase, so I can't upgrade.) The bad: 1. No support for the JOIN syntax in NPoco's Linq implementation. Depending on how you look at it, this can be either a deficiency or a blessing (given how ugly SQL can get with auto-generated joins in EF and other full-feature ORMs). 2. The API can be a little confusing with too many overloaded methods and methods with different names but similar functionality.

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                                  • S stoneyowl2

                                    Not that one, but I have used something called 'PetaPoco', which is kinda based on Dapper. The nice thing, to me, is it is a single .cs file that can be included right in you solution. He also has a later version that is a normal assembly. You will probably need to google 'PetaPoco' to find it.

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                                    Caspian Canuck
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                                    NPoco is the latest version of PetaPoco and is still being actively maintained.

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                                    • A andegre

                                      Dapper is considerably faster than EF. And I also believe that it was written BY Stackoverflow. GitHub - StackExchange/dapper-dot-net: Dapper - a simple object mapper for .Net[^]

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                                      Slacker007
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                                      andegre wrote:

                                      BY Stackoverflow.

                                      I see that. Interesting. Thanks for the info.

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                                      • S Slacker007

                                        EF 6 has more optimizations than before, and is more powerful IMHO then 4 or 5. Any reason why you can't use that?

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                                        UstesGreenridge
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                                        The biggest reason I use Dapper, sometimes I just want to create some POCOs and have them access the db. With Dapper all I need is a connection string and my classes..

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                                        • R realJSOP

                                          Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                          James VT
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                                          I used it for a project. I didn't use any of the object-relational mapping, but I liked that I could swap this:

                                          SqlConnection conn = new SqlConnection(connString);
                                          string sql = @"select * from MyTable";
                                          SqlCommand cmd = new SqlCommand(sql, conn);
                                          conn.Open();
                                          SqlDataReader rdr = cmd.ExecuteReader(CommandBehavior.CloseConnection);
                                          if (rdr.HasRows)
                                          {
                                          while (rdr.Read())
                                          {
                                          //do something with record
                                          }
                                          rdr.Close();
                                          }

                                          with this:

                                          SqlConnection conn = new SqlConnection(connString);
                                          string sql = @"select * from MyTable";
                                          IEnumerable flatResult = conn.Query(sql);

                                          I thought that was pretty handy, especially for quick prototyping where the table and field names were changing a lot and I didn't want to hassle with altering all the field names and just wanted a quick resultset back.

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