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  • R realJSOP

    Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    pt1401
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    I've used it a lot. It's excellent, but in large projects its best used with some form of POCO-generator such as Codesmith to auto-generate your DAL classes on your build server. Dapper is very fast and, even more importantly IMO, it doesn't get in your way.

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    • R realJSOP

      Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
      -----
      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      Ste S
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      I've used Dapper a few times. I really like it and as others have said it generally gets out of the way and works well at mapping your sql to an object or collection of objects. I use it with Dapper extensions which makes simple selecting/updating etc pretty simple. I invested a lot of time in learning EF and it was hard to make the move but honestly I've never found a need to go back to using EF. EF seems overly complex, at least for my needs and I fail to see a good reason for using EF over a micro orm like Dapper or PetaPoco (which i also like).

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      • R realJSOP

        C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        Lost User
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        I just finished a small project running ASP.NET 5 on a Docker container running Ubunutu hosted in Azure :rose: Exciting times ahead I think :)

        The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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        • R realJSOP

          Slacker007 wrote:

          Well, that is not really a good reason.

          It's always been a good reason in the past. And I like living in the past.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          Lost User
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          What do you use instead of Visual Studio?

          The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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          • L Lost User

            What do you use instead of Visual Studio?

            The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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            realJSOP
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            #35

            I use edlin to edit my code, and manually compile everything (yeah it takes a lot longer, but it's hella efficient code).

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            • R realJSOP

              I use edlin to edit my code, and manually compile everything (yeah it takes a lot longer, but it's hella efficient code).

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Lost User
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              #36

              Wow, that looks like the hard way of doing things[^] :laugh: I guess you're paid by the hour? :laugh:

              The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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              • L Lost User

                Wow, that looks like the hard way of doing things[^] :laugh: I guess you're paid by the hour? :laugh:

                The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!

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                realJSOP
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                #37

                Most things that are worth doing start out hard. And that's true for so many things in life. :)

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                • D David Crow

                  Aren't .NET and Mono both from Microsoft, or are you targeting some other platform?

                  "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                  "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                  "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                  realJSOP
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                  #38

                  I was just making a comment. I'm not targeting anything.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  • R realJSOP

                    Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    Mark Jerzykowski
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                    I use it. We wrote a slightly bigger ORM thing to go on top of it: Dashing[^] And yes, much time was spent on the name.

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                    • S Slacker007

                      I have heard of Dapper, and that is about all. I have the most experience with EF but I am not going on the record to say that it is the best. I'm sure there are applications best suited for Dapper. I found this to be interesting. The conclusion at the end is the most important. Dapper looks to be faster in a lot of respects. Interesting. Don't Panic Labs – Speed Comparison: Dapper vs Entity Framework[^] Looks like Stackoverflow uses Dapper.

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                      andegre
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                      Dapper is considerably faster than EF. And I also believe that it was written BY Stackoverflow. GitHub - StackExchange/dapper-dot-net: Dapper - a simple object mapper for .Net[^]

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Dapper is written in C# which is from Microsoft too :-)

                        Regards, Nish


                        Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                        Snorri Kristjansson
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                        He he - there is no escaping - is there?

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                        • R realJSOP

                          Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          Caspian Canuck
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                          I've been using Dapper's spinoff NPoco for a couple of years in a large work project and it's worked out mostly great. The good: 1. Lightning fast, just a fraction slower than bare-bones ADO.NET. 2. No surprise SQL, you know exactly what SQL is sent to the server because you wrote it yourself (unless it's a simple single-table CRUD operation that NPoco generates itself). 3. Latest versions come with Linq expressions support. Back when our project got started there was no Linq support in NPoco and I ended up writing my own Linq-like repository wrapper. (I've made several other customizations to NPoco not all of which have made it into the official codebase, so I can't upgrade.) The bad: 1. No support for the JOIN syntax in NPoco's Linq implementation. Depending on how you look at it, this can be either a deficiency or a blessing (given how ugly SQL can get with auto-generated joins in EF and other full-feature ORMs). 2. The API can be a little confusing with too many overloaded methods and methods with different names but similar functionality.

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                          • S stoneyowl2

                            Not that one, but I have used something called 'PetaPoco', which is kinda based on Dapper. The nice thing, to me, is it is a single .cs file that can be included right in you solution. He also has a later version that is a normal assembly. You will probably need to google 'PetaPoco' to find it.

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                            Caspian Canuck
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                            #43

                            NPoco is the latest version of PetaPoco and is still being actively maintained.

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                            • A andegre

                              Dapper is considerably faster than EF. And I also believe that it was written BY Stackoverflow. GitHub - StackExchange/dapper-dot-net: Dapper - a simple object mapper for .Net[^]

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                              Slacker007
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                              #44

                              andegre wrote:

                              BY Stackoverflow.

                              I see that. Interesting. Thanks for the info.

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                              • S Slacker007

                                EF 6 has more optimizations than before, and is more powerful IMHO then 4 or 5. Any reason why you can't use that?

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                                UstesGreenridge
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                                The biggest reason I use Dapper, sometimes I just want to create some POCOs and have them access the db. With Dapper all I need is a connection string and my classes..

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                                • R realJSOP

                                  Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  James VT
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                                  #46

                                  I used it for a project. I didn't use any of the object-relational mapping, but I liked that I could swap this:

                                  SqlConnection conn = new SqlConnection(connString);
                                  string sql = @"select * from MyTable";
                                  SqlCommand cmd = new SqlCommand(sql, conn);
                                  conn.Open();
                                  SqlDataReader rdr = cmd.ExecuteReader(CommandBehavior.CloseConnection);
                                  if (rdr.HasRows)
                                  {
                                  while (rdr.Read())
                                  {
                                  //do something with record
                                  }
                                  rdr.Close();
                                  }

                                  with this:

                                  SqlConnection conn = new SqlConnection(connString);
                                  string sql = @"select * from MyTable";
                                  IEnumerable flatResult = conn.Query(sql);

                                  I thought that was pretty handy, especially for quick prototyping where the table and field names were changing a lot and I didn't want to hassle with altering all the field names and just wanted a quick resultset back.

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                                  • J James VT

                                    I used it for a project. I didn't use any of the object-relational mapping, but I liked that I could swap this:

                                    SqlConnection conn = new SqlConnection(connString);
                                    string sql = @"select * from MyTable";
                                    SqlCommand cmd = new SqlCommand(sql, conn);
                                    conn.Open();
                                    SqlDataReader rdr = cmd.ExecuteReader(CommandBehavior.CloseConnection);
                                    if (rdr.HasRows)
                                    {
                                    while (rdr.Read())
                                    {
                                    //do something with record
                                    }
                                    rdr.Close();
                                    }

                                    with this:

                                    SqlConnection conn = new SqlConnection(connString);
                                    string sql = @"select * from MyTable";
                                    IEnumerable flatResult = conn.Query(sql);

                                    I thought that was pretty handy, especially for quick prototyping where the table and field names were changing a lot and I didn't want to hassle with altering all the field names and just wanted a quick resultset back.

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                                    Slacker007
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                                    #47

                                    Inline SQL for anything (C# code files, etc.) is strongly discouraged at our shop, but I see your point. :)

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