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  • R realJSOP

    Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    Lost User
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    Yep. It's relatively easy to use, but also not too powerful. It does a good job of abstracting away the database, but not much more. At least it's not a memory hog and does not slow down things too much.

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    • R realJSOP

      Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
      -----
      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
      -----
      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      Slacker007
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      EF 6 has more optimizations than before, and is more powerful IMHO then 4 or 5. Any reason why you can't use that?

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        EF 6 has more optimizations than before, and is more powerful IMHO then 4 or 5. Any reason why you can't use that?

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        Slacker007 wrote:

        EF 6 has ... Any reason why you can't use that?

        It's from Microsoft.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
        -----
        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        • R realJSOP

          Comments? Opinions?

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          Very good. It's not trying to do everything, like EF or NHibernate; it just makes certain tasks with raw ADO.NET a lot easier.


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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          • R realJSOP

            Slacker007 wrote:

            EF 6 has ... Any reason why you can't use that?

            It's from Microsoft.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
            -----
            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
            -----
            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            Slacker007
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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            It's from Microsoft.

            Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.

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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              It's from Microsoft.

              Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.

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              Nish Nishant
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              Dapper is written in C# which is from Microsoft too :-)

              Regards, Nish


              Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                Dapper is written in C# which is from Microsoft too :-)

                Regards, Nish


                Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                Slacker007
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                :-D I rest my case.

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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  It's from Microsoft.

                  Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.

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                  realJSOP
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                  Slacker007 wrote:

                  Well, that is not really a good reason.

                  It's always been a good reason in the past. And I like living in the past.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    Dapper is written in C# which is from Microsoft too :-)

                    Regards, Nish


                    Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    realJSOP
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                    C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    • S Slacker007

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      It's from Microsoft.

                      Well, that is not really a good reason. You have to have a better reason for that, I would think. Our shop/company has been using EF 5 and 6 with great results. We recently went to Code First, and I like that too, despite my initial hesitation...to change.

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                      realJSOP
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                      Besides all of the above, I didn't ask if anyone had used EF.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      • R realJSOP

                        Besides all of the above, I didn't ask if anyone had used EF.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        Slacker007
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                        Fair enough, John.

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                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                          Very good. It's not trying to do everything, like EF or NHibernate; it just makes certain tasks with raw ADO.NET a lot easier.


                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                          realJSOP
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                          I looked in NuGet, and there's a crapload of dapper-related stuff in there. What's worth getting?

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            C# is simply a copy of java, but without the cross-platform capabilities.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            Sascha Lefevre
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                            I'm no Java guy but observing the news Kent posts about Java language development it looks like the table has turned and Java becomes a copy of C# ;P More on topic: If you're looking for a non-Microsoft "heavy" ORM then I would suggest to take a look at VITA[^]. I haven't used it myself yet but it sounds really good.

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                            • R realJSOP

                              I looked in NuGet, and there's a crapload of dapper-related stuff in there. What's worth getting?

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              Richard Deeming
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                              I've only used the core package[^] so far. Dapper.Contrib[^] looks interesting, and is maintained by the same team: Dapper.Contrib - more extensions for dapper[^]


                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                Fair enough, John.

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                                Regards, Nish


                                Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                  BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                  Sascha Lefevre
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                                  It most certainly is - but that's apples and oranges.

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                                    BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                    Slacker007
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                                    I have heard of Dapper, and that is about all. I have the most experience with EF but I am not going on the record to say that it is the best. I'm sure there are applications best suited for Dapper. I found this to be interesting. The conclusion at the end is the most important. Dapper looks to be faster in a lot of respects. Interesting. Don't Panic Labs – Speed Comparison: Dapper vs Entity Framework[^] Looks like Stackoverflow uses Dapper.

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                                      BTW, a few folks claim that Dapper's faster than EF6 - so I guess there's that.

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                      Jorgen Andersson
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                                      The difference is big! If you want faster you have to run your own, like I did.

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                                      • R realJSOP

                                        Slacker007 wrote:

                                        EF 6 has ... Any reason why you can't use that?

                                        It's from Microsoft.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        David Crow
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                                        Aren't .NET and Mono both from Microsoft, or are you targeting some other platform?

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                                        • R realJSOP

                                          Does anyone here use the Dapper ORM?

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                          stoneyowl2
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                                          Not that one, but I have used something called 'PetaPoco', which is kinda based on Dapper. The nice thing, to me, is it is a single .cs file that can be included right in you solution. He also has a later version that is a normal assembly. You will probably need to google 'PetaPoco' to find it.

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