Breaking News: Windows 8 / 10 calculator removes Natural Log (ln) button
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The best thing about is: You can't calculate anything with decimals if you're in programmer mode... You have to switch to another mode for that. X| I prefer one mode for all purposes instead of being forced to switch to different modes. Whoever thought this was a grand idea needs to be slapped as well.
That problem has existed in all versions of Calculator as far back as I can remember.
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The best thing about is: You can't calculate anything with decimals if you're in programmer mode... You have to switch to another mode for that. X| I prefer one mode for all purposes instead of being forced to switch to different modes. Whoever thought this was a grand idea needs to be slapped as well.
Nicholas Marty wrote:
I prefer one mode for all purposes
Agree 100%. But that would be too good. :laugh:
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So the functions you can perform depend on the width of your screen? I say "that's clever!" except I'd need the antonym. And probably a few swear words.
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Yup. It only needs to be 3.5x as wide as the minimum, and even with the history/memory stack sidebar with buttons about 2x as wide as in its minimum layout. And more perversely still it needs to be about 8% wider than its mininum to disable the "shift" in favor of all buttons in 4 rows above the numbers by stretching it vertically.
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raddevus wrote:
Never would've guessed that.
That's how TI scientific calculators work. They have a 2nd button to get to the second functions. Not saying it's a good design for an app but if you are familiar with physical calculators then it's pretty easy to see that all those buttons had the up arrow on them.
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TI is smart enough to use the available space to show what the shifted button is, instead of just drawing an arrow to indicate that there's a shifted mode. :rolleyes: [^]
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You can also get to the additional functions with the ↑ key. But it's still not the best design. :)
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I thought that was to get to the emoji page.
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It is not vey much different that many hardware calculators that have a SHIFT button...
Philippe Mori
Yes, but they do that because of limited space. The damned OS calculator takes up half the screen before you extend it.
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raddevus wrote:
I need to calculate a natural logarithm immediately if not sooner.
Try Google: ln(1) - Google Search[^]
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I'm no fan of google's, but that I like!
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That problem has existed in all versions of Calculator as far back as I can remember.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
It was a possible with the Windows XP calculator at least. I don't remember if it got removed with Windows Vista/7 or later. I thought it was still possible with Windows 7 though, but I might be wrong here.
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raddevus wrote:
That is what that stupid UP Arrow is for. Never would've guessed that.
It would help id the fruggin' buttons looked like buttons! [edit] And if 'f's looked less like 'd's, too [/edit]
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
It would help id the fruggin' buttons looked like buttons!
Nailed it!!
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It is called responsive design...A BS implementation of responsive design...:thumbsdown:
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
A BS implementation of responsive design
I think you nailed it with this. Some junior dev or intern who was like, "yeah, that's my responsive design...hiding stuff unless the stupid user moves unknown stuff around..."
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It is not vey much different that many hardware calculators that have a SHIFT button...
Philippe Mori
Except all those calculators that have a shift button also have the names of the shift-functions above the button to which they are assigned. That simple bit of design would have given all the context in the world to the up arrow, which, by itself, means nothing on a calculator.
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It was a possible with the Windows XP calculator at least. I don't remember if it got removed with Windows Vista/7 or later. I thought it was still possible with Windows 7 though, but I might be wrong here.
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Have you noticed that the ln (natural log) button is removed from Windows 8 / Win 10 calculator? You can see the (original - win xp, win vista, win 7) had it. Old Windows Calculator (image)[^] Why they remove that? Oh, here's the terribly useful Windows 10 doc on the calculator. Ugh! Calculator in Windows 10[^] X| If you find the ln button in the Windows 10 calculator, please let me know. I need to calculate a natural logarithm immediately if not sooner. :laugh:
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Have you noticed that the ln (natural log) button is removed from Windows 8 / Win 10 calculator? You can see the (original - win xp, win vista, win 7) had it. Old Windows Calculator (image)[^] Why they remove that? Oh, here's the terribly useful Windows 10 doc on the calculator. Ugh! Calculator in Windows 10[^] X| If you find the ln button in the Windows 10 calculator, please let me know. I need to calculate a natural logarithm immediately if not sooner. :laugh:
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The problem seems to be between the desk chair and the keyboard. I had no trouble finding it :)
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The best thing about is: You can't calculate anything with decimals if you're in programmer mode... You have to switch to another mode for that. X| I prefer one mode for all purposes instead of being forced to switch to different modes. Whoever thought this was a grand idea needs to be slapped as well.
Like F87AB.A7 or 01100111001.11?
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Have you noticed that the ln (natural log) button is removed from Windows 8 / Win 10 calculator? You can see the (original - win xp, win vista, win 7) had it. Old Windows Calculator (image)[^] Why they remove that? Oh, here's the terribly useful Windows 10 doc on the calculator. Ugh! Calculator in Windows 10[^] X| If you find the ln button in the Windows 10 calculator, please let me know. I need to calculate a natural logarithm immediately if not sooner. :laugh:
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IIRC there is a section (can't recall which) in Charles Petzold's book "Programming Windows", where he writes "No one said it would be easy".
But Petzold was talking about programming! not using!
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But Petzold was talking about programming! not using!
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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The problem seems to be between the desk chair and the keyboard. I had no trouble finding it :)
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Regards, Sander
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Have you noticed that the ln (natural log) button is removed from Windows 8 / Win 10 calculator? You can see the (original - win xp, win vista, win 7) had it. Old Windows Calculator (image)[^] Why they remove that? Oh, here's the terribly useful Windows 10 doc on the calculator. Ugh! Calculator in Windows 10[^] X| If you find the ln button in the Windows 10 calculator, please let me know. I need to calculate a natural logarithm immediately if not sooner. :laugh:
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Who cares? Google ln(2)[^] (for example) Marc
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