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  • P phannon86

    I'm the same, although I was brought up around varying accents. Both parents from Sheffield, so when I'm up north, it switch fast and naturally, however I was raised in the south and that's where I live now and that's how most people hear me. They think I'm pretty weird when as soon as I hit the Yorkshire borders it's all e-by-gum :laugh:

    He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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    Dalek Dave
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    Yorkshire? That's practically Scotland! I live well south of the Watford Gap!

    ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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    • S Simon P Stevens

      James R. Twine wrote:

      Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?

      Yup, I agree....But unfortunately, I can't really say what I really think here in case I offend someone. Best saved for the soap box. What's the difference between women and....oh no...hang on.....women won't like that....what's the biggest cause of.....oh.....not that one either....An English man, an.....nope, racist...A dyslexic man walks into....Dammit all the best jokes are offensive.

      Simon

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      realJSOP
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      That's the nature of humor.

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        Somebody shoot me...    I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :)    One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy.  Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended?  Nope, that would be FAR too easy.  Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it.    Hey!  Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :)    Heh...  I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff.  I really do.    Ahhh...  I feel better now...    Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?  Or is it just me?    Peace!

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        Jim Crafton
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        I feel your pain. We had the same thing here at work about 2 weeks ago. By the end of the session I was left thinking that, other than mumbling "Yes" or "No", just don't talk to anyone at work. It's simpler.

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          Somebody shoot me...    I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :)    One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy.  Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended?  Nope, that would be FAR too easy.  Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it.    Hey!  Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :)    Heh...  I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff.  I really do.    Ahhh...  I feel better now...    Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?  Or is it just me?    Peace!

          -=- James
          Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
          Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
          See DeleteFXPFiles

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          James R Twine
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          About touching...

          Before you touch someone, ask yourself:
          Is it possible that someone might see the physical contact and be offended?

          What? **_SEE_** THE PHYSICAL CONTACT AND BE OFFENDED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  Just observe it and be offended?!    I need to get off this human race train...! :) [edit]    I shudder to think what could happen if my wife and kids visit and I happen giving them a hug or, God Forbid, give my wife a kiss, and BE SEEN DOING IT!!!    Peace!

          -=- James
          Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
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            Yorkshire? That's practically Scotland! I live well south of the Watford Gap!

            ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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            phannon86
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            I live in Aylesbury these days, any further south and my extended (northern) family will probably beat me :laugh:

            He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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              About touching...

              Before you touch someone, ask yourself:
              Is it possible that someone might see the physical contact and be offended?

              What? **_SEE_** THE PHYSICAL CONTACT AND BE OFFENDED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  Just observe it and be offended?!    I need to get off this human race train...! :) [edit]    I shudder to think what could happen if my wife and kids visit and I happen giving them a hug or, God Forbid, give my wife a kiss, and BE SEEN DOING IT!!!    Peace!

              -=- James
              Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
              Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
              See DeleteFXPFiles

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              Dalek Dave
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              Flipside, someone offers their hand for a shake, I refuse, is that offensive? So therefore it is offensive to both touch and not touch? What we need to do is kill the pc brigade and go back to people being grown up. I demand the right to be offensive!

              ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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              • P phannon86

                I live in Aylesbury these days, any further south and my extended (northern) family will probably beat me :laugh:

                He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                Dalek Dave
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                Eh yup. Thar Phannon as become yon southern bastard! :laugh:

                ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                  Flipside, someone offers their hand for a shake, I refuse, is that offensive? So therefore it is offensive to both touch and not touch? What we need to do is kill the pc brigade and go back to people being grown up. I demand the right to be offensive!

                  ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  Shake someone's hand? But you don't know where it's been... :laugh:

                  me, me, me

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                  • J James R Twine

                    Mimicking a foreign accent in a derogatory manner could
                    contribute to a hostile work environment based on national
                    origin.

                    OK...  Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner?    Peace!

                    -=- James
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                    Brady Kelly
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                    James R. Twine wrote:

                    OK... Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner?

                    Yes, in a humorous way.

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      Shake someone's hand? But you don't know where it's been... :laugh:

                      me, me, me

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      Conversely, they don't know the things I do with mine! :-D

                      ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                      • J James R Twine

                        Somebody shoot me...    I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :)    One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy.  Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended?  Nope, that would be FAR too easy.  Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it.    Hey!  Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :)    Heh...  I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff.  I really do.    Ahhh...  I feel better now...    Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?  Or is it just me?    Peace!

                        -=- James
                        Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
                        Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
                        See DeleteFXPFiles

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                        R Giskard Reventlov
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                        It's all complete bollocks: people are not easily offended: they're easily driven to a lawsuit.

                        me, me, me

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                          Somebody shoot me...    I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :)    One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy.  Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended?  Nope, that would be FAR too easy.  Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it.    Hey!  Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :)    Heh...  I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff.  I really do.    Ahhh...  I feel better now...    Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?  Or is it just me?    Peace!

                          -=- James
                          Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
                          Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
                          See DeleteFXPFiles

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                          Tim Carmichael
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                          Well, since you opened the door and invited comments, here are mine. You are paid to work, not tell jokes that may offend people. What you find mild and humourous may very well be offensive to other people. If you don't like the environment - leave. Tim

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            Eh yup. Thar Phannon as become yon southern bastard! :laugh:

                            ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                            phannon86
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                            Can't find a good chippy down 'ere, <peterKay>Has thy nowt moist?!</peterKay>

                            He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                              Somebody shoot me...    I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :)    One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy.  Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended?  Nope, that would be FAR too easy.  Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it.    Hey!  Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :)    Heh...  I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff.  I really do.    Ahhh...  I feel better now...    Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?  Or is it just me?    Peace!

                              -=- James
                              Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
                              Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
                              See DeleteFXPFiles

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                              BadKarma
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                              To see where the PC train is taking us, you might want to read an essay by Douglas Hofstadter A Person Paper on Purity in Language [^].

                              Learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself.

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                              • P phannon86

                                Can't find a good chippy down 'ere, <peterKay>Has thy nowt moist?!</peterKay>

                                He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                                Dalek Dave
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                                I presume you mean Food, not Carpenter! :)

                                ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                                  Well, since you opened the door and invited comments, here are mine. You are paid to work, not tell jokes that may offend people. What you find mild and humourous may very well be offensive to other people. If you don't like the environment - leave. Tim

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                                  James R Twine
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                                  Tim Carmichael wrote:

                                  If you don't like the environment - leave.

                                  Exactly!  Do not complain, or bring suit.  Keep it to yourself, and get out.    Peace!

                                  -=- James
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                                    I presume you mean Food, not Carpenter! :)

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                                    phannon86
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                                    Indeed, I have no use for either a moist carpenter or his soggy wood.

                                    He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                                      Indeed, I have no use for either a moist carpenter or his soggy wood.

                                      He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                                      Dalek Dave
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                                      Phannon wrote:

                                      soggy wood

                                      Euphemism?

                                      ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                                        Phannon wrote:

                                        soggy wood

                                        Euphemism?

                                        ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                                        phannon86
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                                        I had no intention for it to sound that way, although I realised what I had typed pretty quickly. I left it in for the comedy value :)

                                        He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                                        • J James R Twine

                                          Somebody shoot me...    I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :)    One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy.  Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended?  Nope, that would be FAR too easy.  Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it.    Hey!  Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :)    Heh...  I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff.  I really do.    Ahhh...  I feel better now...    Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?  Or is it just me?    Peace!

                                          -=- James
                                          Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
                                          Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
                                          See DeleteFXPFiles

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                                          peterchen
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                                          James R. Twine wrote:

                                          Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it

                                          If they'd at least tell their concerns right there! Complaining anonymously at a higher-up office that cannot ignore the request is completely antisocial. We need that mechanism for serious cases, guys! That's like calling 911 because your milk went bad.

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