JimmyRopes wrote:

You Linux evangelists

Where did I say I was a Linux evangelist? You really are one stupid sob. Tell me, what has Linux got to do with a third party driver written for a chunk of hardware that just happens to be used on a particular SOC?

Let me explain it in terms you can understand. You are an idiot who doesn't know what they are talking about. Now, we are all paying attention, you are going to explain the differences between the 6 and 6.1 kernel and what it is that makes the 6 kernel so 'outdated' according to you. Oh, don't you even know what the 6 and 6.1 kernel are? How silly of me, and there I was thinking you knew what you were talking about. Oh well, I guess you are just another jerk on the net with an opinion after all. When you learn something kiddy, feel free to come back and join the conversation with the adults here.

JimmyRopes wrote:

You should try Linux

I do. Read down a few threads.

OriginalGriff wrote:

Notepad works fine.

:) They even messed up calc on win 7. I copy over the XP one, its far better. Why is everything they do such crap?

So Vista doesn't work, so I chuck in a Win7 DVD, and run it. I chose upgrade. It says, go to this link and download SP1 first. I go to that link, and IE tells me I need to upgrade IE. I really fucking hate Windows and MSFT. All they produce is shit.

Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

How long did it take you to learn Linux well enough to become employed at working on it

About a month. The kernel is very similar to windows, PASSIVE is process, DISPATCH and DIRQ, soft and hard interrupt. DPCs are work items, spin locks are spinlocks and so on. The language is C and the protocols and HW interfacing are the same. The only difference is the API to the kernel and different tools; using test editors to edit code rather than VS, and having to use your own code profiling tools because browse info isn't built. Debugging is different too. Windbg is a great tool, and Linux has nothing like it, so the best that can be done is with kgdb, which isn't bad. Once annoyance, you cant build an entire kernel in debug (un optimized) mode, only per file using #pragma. You have to do that to have proper step through in the kernel. You also cant break into the OS at boot time and automatically drop into a debugger on exception, like in Windows. But it is so much easier to write code for, so many less hoops to jump through, that you can really focus on getting your work done rather than dicking around. Right now I am trying to run the MSFT HCK client on Vista, to fix a bug in a third party windows driver, and the HCK client isn't a valid win32 app apparently. This is typical MSFT. Absoloute shitty experience. Days and days and days I have wasted fucking around with this crap trying to get consistent results out of it and so far, zero. That's the Windows experience all over.

JimmyRopes wrote:

That is exactly what I thought when I read that statement

Then you are equally stupid. How does saying one enjoys working on Linux mean one thinks Linux is 'shit hot'? The stupidity of people is staggering.

Mark H2 wrote:

if Linux is so sh*thot, how come you're having to fix nasty kernel bugs

Why do you think that is a clever reply? Its typical of the narrow minded partisan stupidity evident in human nature. If you actually read what I wrote you will realize I said I enjoy working on Linux far more than Windows not that Linux was 'shit hot'.

So for a year I have switched to and been working on Linux. What fun, nice, simple, predictable, logical, 'does what it says on the tin' kind of an OS. Been fixing all sorts of nasty kernel bugs, and generally having a lot of fun. Now I have had to take a look at one of the firms Windows drivers, and I am trying to run it through the WHQL test kit... What a pain in the arse the WHQL kit is. It is SO hard to get it to install properly. SO hard to get it to run properly. SO hard to get it to produce consistent results, that it reminds me exactly why I got totally pissed off with working with Windows; it has so many hoops to jump through you forget what you are actually trying to achieve and get utterly worn out and frustrated in the process to the point you feel like taking a claw hammer to all your Windows PCs. Christ I hate Windows. It makes me want to puke. Now I know why Mark Russinovich looks so knackered.

Want any assembly or drivers writing? Nah, thought not! :)

DVD was always Digital Video Disk, for a long time. Then a few years ago, it became 'Versatile'! VERSATILE????!!!?! And LOL was 'lots of laughs; as far as I always knew. Now it is 'laugh out loud'. When the hell did that happen?

Wellcome to England! :)

Nagy Vilmos wrote:

Personally I'm against the conditional 3p hike in beer tax

How fortunate for you the budget allows you to make *manly* statements about alcohol.

V. wrote:

Are there bad tutorials out there or what

YOu seen the state of some CP articles? Its the internet, full of wannabees. BTW Thunderstruck is pretty easy to play, the problem is losing interest since it gets very repettetive after a minute. It is plucked though the whole time, no hammers or pulls, if you listen to the atack on every note.

Yep. Corrupt science. Got to be really cynical about what you are told and think for yourself. Especialy about what interests the various prties have.

devenv.exe wrote:

Can't they just press Ctrl + F in Visual studio?

How is that even funny? Its just pathetic. Completely lacking in humour, as well as of questionable taste.

Yeah, that's also common.

...yet you had to reply...

corrected....

Saturated fat 'ISN'T bad for your heart'[^] The original study, I forget who by, eliminated two outliers in its data set in order to show a nice linear correlation between dietary fat and heart disease, and went on to form govt policy for decades. Of course as an idea it was simple, and acceptable, and thus swallowed all the more easily. I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....

Films suck. Books are WAY WAY WAY better.