I do that when work with diferent languages. I put the resource into dlls, and share it from the dll.... Regards Carlos Antollini. Sonork ID 100.10529 cantollini

I've changed my code to use a stored procedure which returns the value of the ID back as an output parameter. This works pretty well. I'd still be interested to know if it is possible via AddNew though. Michael :-)

Tim Smith wrote: LOL. Just a joke that some of the more rabid ones hate MS so much that they wouldn't be caught dead doing something that MS does. Damn, my jokes are REALLY sucking bad as of late. Then again... No, your joke is spot on and all too frightengly true. I was talking to a mate yesterday about the exact same thing and we both had the same conclusion that a lot of Linux fans only do Linux because they hate MS, not because they think Linux is any good. Also anything MS does, they do the polar affect. Pretty sad really. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

Brigg Thorp wrote: Sorry Paul, but Dudley Moore hasn't died yet Sorry, my typo and mis-thought. I meant to say If Dudley Moore died... etc. I have been using my time machine too much of late, can't always remember what has actually happened or will happen. ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront

err, actually, that is a very old post, hehe. Just noticed the date. The match I'm talking about ended this weekend :-) Thanks all the same Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky

An old saying goes - well not that old maybe: "Give a computer programmer 100 hours for doing an assignment, and he will use 99 hours building a tool, that will complete the assignment in 1 hour" ... and another 100 hours for debugging, the tool because it does not work as expected, you might add... But anyway, my point is, that you could make a tool, that would do the work for you - perhaps something that would generate data entry forms based on SQL statements into the database. Christian Skovdal Andersen Don't mention the war...

I guess it's been about 20 years now for me, which seems rather remarkable considering that I'm only 27. (Although I probably didn't start programming until I was 9.)

Michael P Butler wrote: Whilst both Shakespeare's plays and the bible are great works of fiction, I find Will to have a better sense of humor. I tend to think of the Bible more as a book of philosophy, but take it as you will... If you appreciate Will's humor, perhaps you'd recognize his joke in putting these words in Dick the butcher's mouth. First Dick calls for killing the lawyers as part of a people's revolution that will abolish private property so "all the realm shall be in common." Shortly thereafter Dick and his cronies want to kill anyone who can read or write. In other words, I don't think Shakespeare intended anyone to think that either of these suggestions were good things. CADE Be brave, then; for your captain is brave, and vows reformation. There shall be in England seven halfpenny loaves sold for a penny: the three-hooped pot; shall have ten hoops and I will make it felony to drink small beer: all the realm shall be in common; and in Cheapside shall my palfrey go to grass: and when I am king, as king I will be,-- ALL God save your majesty! CADE I thank you, good people: there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers and worship me their lord. DICK The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. CADE Nay, that I mean to do. Is not this a lamentable thing, that of the skin of an innocent lamb should be made parchment? that parchment, being scribbled o'er, should undo a man? Some say the bee stings: but I say, 'tis the bee's wax; for I did but seal once to a thing, and I was never mine own man since. How now! who's there? Enter some, bringing forward the Clerk of Chatham SMITH The clerk of Chatham: he can write and read and cast accompt. CADE O monstrous! SMITH We took him setting of boys' copies. CADE Here's a villain! SMITH Has a book in his pocket with red letters in't. CADE Nay, then, he is a conjurer. DICK Nay, he can make obligations, and write court-hand. CADE I am sorry for't: the man is a proper man, of mine honour; unless I find him guilty, he shall not die. Come hither, sirrah, I must examine thee: what is thy name? Clerk Emmanuel. DICK They use to write it on the top of letters: 'twill go hard with you. CADE Let me alone. Dost thou use to write thy name? or hast thou a mark to thyself, like an honest plain-dealing man? CLERK

Kinda reminds me of the "Go Fish" game I had to write back in my Data Structures class in 1993 while still in college. I spent an unbelievable time tweaking my logic so my computer component would play well. Our programs had to handle the deck and shuffling but also had to take a common deck as input. That way our computer opponents could be put against each other. Anyway, I came in second to a guy who's logic was always to ask for the last card he took off the deck. Matt

happy Jon Sagara What about :bob:? Sonork ID: 100.9999 jonsagara

Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: [I could not get the o with two dots on top of it] Try AllChars. It's free, and I find it very useful for typing characters in the top half of the ANSI character set. Gavin Greig

Jon Hulatt wrote: I once sewed some buttons back onto a coat. The first one took 35 minutes. I got the second one down to 20 mins. Then my girlfriend got mad and took over. She did the other 3 in about 5 minutes. I think i'm just incompentant. But i did do that thing where you kind of offset the button so it sticks up some so it'll go through the coat. It was a high quality job. If I'm not in a hurry, I take mine to be dry-cleaned. They replace missing buttons and restitch the pockets, etc. Worth the money [and they clean it too :)]. BTW, I can sew, I just have better things to do with my time! Regards, Ray

Retrenched three months ago and still unemployed. Dependant wife and two kids. So right now I would code for the Catholic Church if I was to get paid for it. Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

Precisely ;-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

Richard Stringer wrote: But the US is still the very best of the very best. The cream of the crop so to speak. Not all of it Just Texas. The rest of the US is getting in pretty bad shape. I don't watch King of the Hill very often, but I get a good laugh every time one of the Hills uses "Texas" where any non-Texan would say "America" :) I'm rather partial to Maine, myself :) The top 3/4 probably has almost as much independant spirit as Texas, but the botton 1/4 would sooner be part of Mass. Regards, Dan

Hi James, Thanks for the response. What I wanted to get across is that it's very hard to make the argument that C# is more productive than modern C++ when you throw finalization into the equation. Having Dispose methods, try/catch/finally and all the SuppressFinalize items in your code introduces a significant layer of complexity itself, and it is not at all clear to me that this is significantly more robust than the C++ approach*. Also, since we mentioned exception handling, it's clear to me that only the C++ community has a good grasp on dealing with exceptions. (I'm referring to Sutter's work in Exceptional C++ and More Exceptional C++.) It would certainly be a good idea for the Java and C# developers of the world to look at these two books for correct approaches to exception handling, as I think this is one of the worst-handled aspects of both languages. CodeGuy The WTL newsgroup: over 1100 members! Be a part of it. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wtl * Except for handling exceptions propagating from COM methods. This is where the C#/CLR approach shines.

Thanks Paul, Just the info I had been looking for and completely failed to find. So with a bit of luck, by the 15th Feb the disks will have arrived. As long as they don't arrive on Valentines day otherwise I'll be in trouble :-) Michael :-)

David Wulff wrote: Seriously though, I still eat two good meals a day plus snacks*, I just don't buy them myself. OK, I'm happy now , and I won't worry any more. :-) David Wulff wrote: I am a big believer in having a large breakfast Good ! David Wulff wrote: and skiping a full lunch in favour of a sandwich or two Thats OK ! Eating Breakfast is important as you get your energy from it, and normally breakfasts contain healthy sources. Skipping breakfast especially for younger people means they eat a lot of junk food during the day, when they have a high desire for energy. David Wulff wrote: Colin Davies wrote: Or are you so busy doing important stuff that you are not eating correctly. Is that physically possible? I mean, wont you stop functioning if you don't eat? Eventually you will stop functioning, this has been proven with laboratory rats under controlled testing. :-) Some peoples metabolisms allows for them to go reasonable intervals without food where they burn up fats and other energy sources to replace there zero food intake. Anyhow I'm very happy that you are eating OK. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin I live in Bob's HungOut now COBOL programmers understand why women hate periods