Paul Watson wrote: Still, always good to have ear muffs around if your flat mate is a wannabe musician Well... I'm sure I would have said something not-so-nice, but I found out that he was learning it to impress this cute girl we know.. So, I figured it was OK(tm). :-D And when the sounds get really bad, I just turn my music up a bit. :-D I prefer to wear gloves when using it, but that's merely a matter of personal hygiene [Roger Wright on VB] Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. [Rich Cook]