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  • R realJSOP

    Trollslayer wrote:

    They have to make a living, what would you sugggest?

    I'd like to suggest that they continue to make a living off their other over-priced tools and re-reelease Reflector back into the public ads an open-source application.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    thoru
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    So why isn't the community start an open source project and make a better reflector?

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    • T thoru

      So why isn't the community start an open source project and make a better reflector?

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      Lost User
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      :thumbsup:

      Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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      • R rcollina

        Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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        Nish Nishant
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        Yeah, and because of the forced upgrades, you cannot continue using the free version either :-(

        Regards, Nish


        Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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        • T thoru

          So why isn't the community start an open source project and make a better reflector?

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          Nish Nishant
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          Because it's a freaking lot of work! :-) The original author was *that* good. Not surprising that Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.

          Regards, Nish


          Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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          • R rcollina

            Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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            Slacker007
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            95 bucks for the version that really does something the "Pro". Basic is 35 bucks...which means it doesn't do shit. FAIL X 2:thumbsdown:

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            • R realJSOP

              Trollslayer wrote:

              They have to make a living, what would you sugggest?

              I'd like to suggest that they continue to make a living off their other over-priced tools and re-reelease Reflector back into the public ads an open-source application.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              Dan Neely
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              For that matter, as an individual user; how hard would it be to reflect Reflector and remove the timebomb from the current free version?

              3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                Because it's a freaking lot of work! :-) The original author was *that* good. Not surprising that Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.

                Regards, Nish


                Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.

                Really! I thought he was a Microsoft employee even before he started on reflector.

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  This[^] article makes for an interesting read.

                  I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                  Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                  Dan Neely
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                  They might not have got the halo effect they were hoping for with the free version; but they have gotten a forked tail, pitchfork, and horns effect by pulling the plug on it. There is exactly zero chance I will ever lobby for buying a redgate product in the future; and a 100% chance I will lobby against efforts by any co-workers to do so.

                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.

                    Really! I thought he was a Microsoft employee even before he started on reflector.

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    #27

                    No, he was hired after Reflector was released. People blogged about it at the time. He did continue releasing new versions of Reflector even after he joined Microsoft though. Until Red Gate acquired it from him.

                    Regards, Nish


                    Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      Yeah, and because of the forced upgrades, you cannot continue using the free version either :-(

                      Regards, Nish


                      Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                      leppie
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                      echo '127.0.0.1 reflector.red-gate.com' >> hosts

                      How naive of you, Nish ;P

                      ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                      • L leppie

                        echo '127.0.0.1 reflector.red-gate.com' >> hosts

                        How naive of you, Nish ;P

                        ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Yeah but then the app won't run. So you'd have to "crack" the app to get around it.

                        Regards, Nish


                        Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          Yeah but then the app won't run. So you'd have to "crack" the app to get around it.

                          Regards, Nish


                          Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                          leppie
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                          What, the current app can't run without internet access? If so, that's daft... There is a 50% chance that any given site will be blocked by our corporate firewall already!

                          ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                            What, the current app can't run without internet access? If so, that's daft... There is a 50% chance that any given site will be blocked by our corporate firewall already!

                            ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            It needs Internet access once the current version has expired.

                            Regards, Nish


                            Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                            • N Nish Nishant

                              It needs Internet access once the current version has expired.

                              Regards, Nish


                              Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                              leppie
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                              :sigh: Oh well.

                              ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                              • L leppie

                                :sigh: Oh well.

                                ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                #33

                                There's not even one single alternative to Reflector. Software monopolies are bad, even if they are originally free (as we just found out).

                                Regards, Nish


                                Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                • D Dave Parker

                                  Thanks. Well, could kind of see it coming anyway.

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                                  rcollina
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                                  You're welcome. A shame, really. :(

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                                  • R rcollina

                                    Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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                                    Keith Barrow
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                                    Who couldn't see that coming a mile off. I read the e-mail about 20 mins ago, and I'm still p*ssed off, I wouldn't be if this hadn't started off as open source. To rub salt into the wound, the e-mail I received under "Links to More" has the splendidly named link "Free downloads of .NET Reflector.". I hope Redgate sinks.

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                                    • N Nish Nishant

                                      There's not even one single alternative to Reflector. Software monopolies are bad, even if they are originally free (as we just found out).

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                      leppie
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                                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                      There's not even one single alternative to Reflector.

                                      Not for long :) http://twitter.com/#!/jbevain/status/32807256839950337[^]

                                      ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                                      • L leppie

                                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                        There's not even one single alternative to Reflector.

                                        Not for long :) http://twitter.com/#!/jbevain/status/32807256839950337[^]

                                        ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                                        Nish Nishant
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                                        Cool!

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                        • R rcollina

                                          Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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                                          J Dunlap
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                                          :sigh: I knew it would happen... there goes one of the most useful free utilities ever written for the .NET platform... Darn you Red Gate :mad: Maybe some of us here could get together and write something to replace it. It would be challenging but rewarding if we managed it. I've generated IL plenty of times before when DynamicMethod was the only dynamic code generation method in .NET. Reverse engineering would be harder but obviously it's possible.

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