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  • N Nish Nishant

    Because it's a freaking lot of work! :-) The original author was *that* good. Not surprising that Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.

    Regards, Nish


    Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

    Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.

    Really! I thought he was a Microsoft employee even before he started on reflector.

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      This[^] article makes for an interesting read.

      I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

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      They might not have got the halo effect they were hoping for with the free version; but they have gotten a forked tail, pitchfork, and horns effect by pulling the plug on it. There is exactly zero chance I will ever lobby for buying a redgate product in the future; and a 100% chance I will lobby against efforts by any co-workers to do so.

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      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.

        Really! I thought he was a Microsoft employee even before he started on reflector.

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        Nish Nishant
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        No, he was hired after Reflector was released. People blogged about it at the time. He did continue releasing new versions of Reflector even after he joined Microsoft though. Until Red Gate acquired it from him.

        Regards, Nish


        Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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        • N Nish Nishant

          Yeah, and because of the forced upgrades, you cannot continue using the free version either :-(

          Regards, Nish


          Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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          echo '127.0.0.1 reflector.red-gate.com' >> hosts

          How naive of you, Nish ;P

          ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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            echo '127.0.0.1 reflector.red-gate.com' >> hosts

            How naive of you, Nish ;P

            ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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            Nish Nishant
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            Yeah but then the app won't run. So you'd have to "crack" the app to get around it.

            Regards, Nish


            Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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            • N Nish Nishant

              Yeah but then the app won't run. So you'd have to "crack" the app to get around it.

              Regards, Nish


              Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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              leppie
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              What, the current app can't run without internet access? If so, that's daft... There is a 50% chance that any given site will be blocked by our corporate firewall already!

              ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                What, the current app can't run without internet access? If so, that's daft... There is a 50% chance that any given site will be blocked by our corporate firewall already!

                ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                Nish Nishant
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                It needs Internet access once the current version has expired.

                Regards, Nish


                Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  It needs Internet access once the current version has expired.

                  Regards, Nish


                  Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  leppie
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                  :sigh: Oh well.

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                    :sigh: Oh well.

                    ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    There's not even one single alternative to Reflector. Software monopolies are bad, even if they are originally free (as we just found out).

                    Regards, Nish


                    Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    • D Dave Parker

                      Thanks. Well, could kind of see it coming anyway.

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                      rcollina
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                      You're welcome. A shame, really. :(

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                      • R rcollina

                        Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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                        Who couldn't see that coming a mile off. I read the e-mail about 20 mins ago, and I'm still p*ssed off, I wouldn't be if this hadn't started off as open source. To rub salt into the wound, the e-mail I received under "Links to More" has the splendidly named link "Free downloads of .NET Reflector.". I hope Redgate sinks.

                        Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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                        A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          There's not even one single alternative to Reflector. Software monopolies are bad, even if they are originally free (as we just found out).

                          Regards, Nish


                          Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                          leppie
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                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                          There's not even one single alternative to Reflector.

                          Not for long :) http://twitter.com/#!/jbevain/status/32807256839950337[^]

                          ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                            There's not even one single alternative to Reflector.

                            Not for long :) http://twitter.com/#!/jbevain/status/32807256839950337[^]

                            ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            Cool!

                            Regards, Nish


                            Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                            • R rcollina

                              Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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                              J Dunlap
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                              :sigh: I knew it would happen... there goes one of the most useful free utilities ever written for the .NET platform... Darn you Red Gate :mad: Maybe some of us here could get together and write something to replace it. It would be challenging but rewarding if we managed it. I've generated IL plenty of times before when DynamicMethod was the only dynamic code generation method in .NET. Reverse engineering would be harder but obviously it's possible.

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                              • K Keith Barrow

                                Who couldn't see that coming a mile off. I read the e-mail about 20 mins ago, and I'm still p*ssed off, I wouldn't be if this hadn't started off as open source. To rub salt into the wound, the e-mail I received under "Links to More" has the splendidly named link "Free downloads of .NET Reflector.". I hope Redgate sinks.

                                Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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                                A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                                Pete OHanlon
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                                I see you got home OK. How was the flight?

                                I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                                Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                • R rcollina

                                  Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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                                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                  Roberto Collina wrote:

                                  From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$

                                  Oh, horror! That's almost a tank of gas in the US and half a tank in Europe! How on Earth are we going to afford it?

                                  utf8-cpp

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                                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                    Roberto Collina wrote:

                                    From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$

                                    Oh, horror! That's almost a tank of gas in the US and half a tank in Europe! How on Earth are we going to afford it?

                                    utf8-cpp

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                                    rcollina
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                                    Oh, the irony! Thank you for your contribution, I am pleased to see money is not a concern for you.

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                                    • R rcollina

                                      Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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                                      Andy Brummer
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                                      Yeah, reflector was a good tool back before they bought it and I didn't like the forced upgrades even when it was free. Red Gate also used to make a good profiler, but it's gotten bogged down with features and harder to use. Their sql tools are good and I used them a lot when I worked with a 100+ databases ranging up to multiple TB daily, but I haven't touched them since.

                                      Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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                                      • T thoru

                                        So why isn't the community start an open source project and make a better reflector?

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                                        Daniel Grunwald
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                                        Don't worry, you'll see lots of open-source Reflectors popping up soon enough. However I don't think they'll reach the quality of the original any time soon. I'm working on the SharpDevelop project - we have Reflector integration, which we'll have to remove (any 3rd-party software supported by us must be free of charge). So we're currently discussing whether we should start such a project - we definately do have the knowlegde to build a decompiler (in fact one of us already built a prototype two years ago), but of course it would distract from the tons of other work we want to do for SharpDevelop. If anyone else is thinking about starting such a project, write me a mail :) I'm guessing we'll also see a discussion on the Mono.Cecil mailing list.

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                                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                          Roberto Collina wrote:

                                          From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$

                                          Oh, horror! That's almost a tank of gas in the US and half a tank in Europe! How on Earth are we going to afford it?

                                          utf8-cpp

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                                          Keith Barrow
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                                          Can I borrow a fiver? :-)

                                          Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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                                          A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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