Thanks, Red Gate
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Trollslayer wrote:
They have to make a living, what would you sugggest?
I'd like to suggest that they continue to make a living off their other over-priced tools and re-reelease Reflector back into the public ads an open-source application.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Because it's a freaking lot of work! :-) The original author was *that* good. Not surprising that Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.
Really! I thought he was a Microsoft employee even before he started on reflector.
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They might not have got the halo effect they were hoping for with the free version; but they have gotten a forked tail, pitchfork, and horns effect by pulling the plug on it. There is exactly zero chance I will ever lobby for buying a redgate product in the future; and a 100% chance I will lobby against efforts by any co-workers to do so.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.
Really! I thought he was a Microsoft employee even before he started on reflector.
No, he was hired after Reflector was released. People blogged about it at the time. He did continue releasing new versions of Reflector even after he joined Microsoft though. Until Red Gate acquired it from him.
Regards, Nish
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Yeah, and because of the forced upgrades, you cannot continue using the free version either :-(
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echo '127.0.0.1 reflector.red-gate.com' >> hosts
How naive of you, Nish ;P
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echo '127.0.0.1 reflector.red-gate.com' >> hosts
How naive of you, Nish ;P
Yeah but then the app won't run. So you'd have to "crack" the app to get around it.
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Yeah but then the app won't run. So you'd have to "crack" the app to get around it.
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What, the current app can't run without internet access? If so, that's daft... There is a 50% chance that any given site will be blocked by our corporate firewall already!
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What, the current app can't run without internet access? If so, that's daft... There is a 50% chance that any given site will be blocked by our corporate firewall already!
It needs Internet access once the current version has expired.
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It needs Internet access once the current version has expired.
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:sigh: Oh well.
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:sigh: Oh well.
There's not even one single alternative to Reflector. Software monopolies are bad, even if they are originally free (as we just found out).
Regards, Nish
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Thanks. Well, could kind of see it coming anyway.
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Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|
Who couldn't see that coming a mile off. I read the e-mail about 20 mins ago, and I'm still p*ssed off, I wouldn't be if this hadn't started off as open source. To rub salt into the wound, the e-mail I received under "Links to More" has the splendidly named link "Free downloads of .NET Reflector.". I hope Redgate sinks.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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There's not even one single alternative to Reflector. Software monopolies are bad, even if they are originally free (as we just found out).
Regards, Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
There's not even one single alternative to Reflector.
Not for long :) http://twitter.com/#!/jbevain/status/32807256839950337[^]
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
There's not even one single alternative to Reflector.
Not for long :) http://twitter.com/#!/jbevain/status/32807256839950337[^]
Cool!
Regards, Nish
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Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|
:sigh: I knew it would happen... there goes one of the most useful free utilities ever written for the .NET platform... Darn you Red Gate :mad: Maybe some of us here could get together and write something to replace it. It would be challenging but rewarding if we managed it. I've generated IL plenty of times before when DynamicMethod was the only dynamic code generation method in .NET. Reverse engineering would be harder but obviously it's possible.
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Who couldn't see that coming a mile off. I read the e-mail about 20 mins ago, and I'm still p*ssed off, I wouldn't be if this hadn't started off as open source. To rub salt into the wound, the e-mail I received under "Links to More" has the splendidly named link "Free downloads of .NET Reflector.". I hope Redgate sinks.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]I see you got home OK. How was the flight?
I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|
Roberto Collina wrote:
From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$
Oh, horror! That's almost a tank of gas in the US and half a tank in Europe! How on Earth are we going to afford it?
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Roberto Collina wrote:
From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$
Oh, horror! That's almost a tank of gas in the US and half a tank in Europe! How on Earth are we going to afford it?
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Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|
Yeah, reflector was a good tool back before they bought it and I didn't like the forced upgrades even when it was free. Red Gate also used to make a good profiler, but it's gotten bogged down with features and harder to use. Their sql tools are good and I used them a lot when I worked with a 100+ databases ranging up to multiple TB daily, but I haven't touched them since.
Curvature of the Mind now with 3D
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Don't worry, you'll see lots of open-source Reflectors popping up soon enough. However I don't think they'll reach the quality of the original any time soon. I'm working on the SharpDevelop project - we have Reflector integration, which we'll have to remove (any 3rd-party software supported by us must be free of charge). So we're currently discussing whether we should start such a project - we definately do have the knowlegde to build a decompiler (in fact one of us already built a prototype two years ago), but of course it would distract from the tons of other work we want to do for SharpDevelop. If anyone else is thinking about starting such a project, write me a mail :) I'm guessing we'll also see a discussion on the Mono.Cecil mailing list.