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  • R rcollina

    Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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    Slacker007
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    95 bucks for the version that really does something the "Pro". Basic is 35 bucks...which means it doesn't do shit. FAIL X 2:thumbsdown:

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    • R realJSOP

      Trollslayer wrote:

      They have to make a living, what would you sugggest?

      I'd like to suggest that they continue to make a living off their other over-priced tools and re-reelease Reflector back into the public ads an open-source application.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      Dan Neely
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      For that matter, as an individual user; how hard would it be to reflect Reflector and remove the timebomb from the current free version?

      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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        Because it's a freaking lot of work! :-) The original author was *that* good. Not surprising that Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.

        Regards, Nish


        Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.

        Really! I thought he was a Microsoft employee even before he started on reflector.

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          This[^] article makes for an interesting read.

          I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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          Dan Neely
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          They might not have got the halo effect they were hoping for with the free version; but they have gotten a forked tail, pitchfork, and horns effect by pulling the plug on it. There is exactly zero chance I will ever lobby for buying a redgate product in the future; and a 100% chance I will lobby against efforts by any co-workers to do so.

          3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

            Microsoft jumped at the chance to hire him.

            Really! I thought he was a Microsoft employee even before he started on reflector.

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            Nish Nishant
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            No, he was hired after Reflector was released. People blogged about it at the time. He did continue releasing new versions of Reflector even after he joined Microsoft though. Until Red Gate acquired it from him.

            Regards, Nish


            Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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            • N Nish Nishant

              Yeah, and because of the forced upgrades, you cannot continue using the free version either :-(

              Regards, Nish


              Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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              leppie
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              echo '127.0.0.1 reflector.red-gate.com' >> hosts

              How naive of you, Nish ;P

              ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                echo '127.0.0.1 reflector.red-gate.com' >> hosts

                How naive of you, Nish ;P

                ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                Nish Nishant
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                Yeah but then the app won't run. So you'd have to "crack" the app to get around it.

                Regards, Nish


                Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  Yeah but then the app won't run. So you'd have to "crack" the app to get around it.

                  Regards, Nish


                  Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  leppie
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                  What, the current app can't run without internet access? If so, that's daft... There is a 50% chance that any given site will be blocked by our corporate firewall already!

                  ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                    What, the current app can't run without internet access? If so, that's daft... There is a 50% chance that any given site will be blocked by our corporate firewall already!

                    ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    It needs Internet access once the current version has expired.

                    Regards, Nish


                    Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      It needs Internet access once the current version has expired.

                      Regards, Nish


                      Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                      leppie
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                      :sigh: Oh well.

                      ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                      • L leppie

                        :sigh: Oh well.

                        ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        There's not even one single alternative to Reflector. Software monopolies are bad, even if they are originally free (as we just found out).

                        Regards, Nish


                        Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                        • D Dave Parker

                          Thanks. Well, could kind of see it coming anyway.

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                          rcollina
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                          You're welcome. A shame, really. :(

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                          • R rcollina

                            Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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                            Keith Barrow
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                            Who couldn't see that coming a mile off. I read the e-mail about 20 mins ago, and I'm still p*ssed off, I wouldn't be if this hadn't started off as open source. To rub salt into the wound, the e-mail I received under "Links to More" has the splendidly named link "Free downloads of .NET Reflector.". I hope Redgate sinks.

                            Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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                            A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                            • N Nish Nishant

                              There's not even one single alternative to Reflector. Software monopolies are bad, even if they are originally free (as we just found out).

                              Regards, Nish


                              Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                              leppie
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                              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                              There's not even one single alternative to Reflector.

                              Not for long :) http://twitter.com/#!/jbevain/status/32807256839950337[^]

                              ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                              • L leppie

                                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                There's not even one single alternative to Reflector.

                                Not for long :) http://twitter.com/#!/jbevain/status/32807256839950337[^]

                                ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                #37

                                Cool!

                                Regards, Nish


                                Latest article: Code Project Posts Analyzer for Windows Phone 7 My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                • R rcollina

                                  Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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                                  J Dunlap
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                                  :sigh: I knew it would happen... there goes one of the most useful free utilities ever written for the .NET platform... Darn you Red Gate :mad: Maybe some of us here could get together and write something to replace it. It would be challenging but rewarding if we managed it. I've generated IL plenty of times before when DynamicMethod was the only dynamic code generation method in .NET. Reverse engineering would be harder but obviously it's possible.

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                                  • K Keith Barrow

                                    Who couldn't see that coming a mile off. I read the e-mail about 20 mins ago, and I'm still p*ssed off, I wouldn't be if this hadn't started off as open source. To rub salt into the wound, the e-mail I received under "Links to More" has the splendidly named link "Free downloads of .NET Reflector.". I hope Redgate sinks.

                                    Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                                    -Or-
                                    A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                                    Pete OHanlon
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                                    #39

                                    I see you got home OK. How was the flight?

                                    I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.

                                    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                    • R rcollina

                                      Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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                                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                      Roberto Collina wrote:

                                      From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$

                                      Oh, horror! That's almost a tank of gas in the US and half a tank in Europe! How on Earth are we going to afford it?

                                      utf8-cpp

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                                      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                        Roberto Collina wrote:

                                        From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$

                                        Oh, horror! That's almost a tank of gas in the US and half a tank in Europe! How on Earth are we going to afford it?

                                        utf8-cpp

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                                        rcollina
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                                        Oh, the irony! Thank you for your contribution, I am pleased to see money is not a concern for you.

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                                        • R rcollina

                                          Reflector, our beloved Reflector, will never be free again. From version 7 on, you'll have to dish out 35$. I don't know if it's a repost; search didn't produce results. Feels wrong. X|

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                                          Andy Brummer
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                                          Yeah, reflector was a good tool back before they bought it and I didn't like the forced upgrades even when it was free. Red Gate also used to make a good profiler, but it's gotten bogged down with features and harder to use. Their sql tools are good and I used them a lot when I worked with a 100+ databases ranging up to multiple TB daily, but I haven't touched them since.

                                          Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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