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  • C cechode

    this would be a linq version

            (from f in new List<Func<bool>>() { Step1, Step2, Step3 }
             where !f()
             select 0).FirstOrDefault();
    

    but you are still limited to the same function signature in the vb version it could be

    case step1(mystring)
    case step2(myint, mystring)
    .....

    modified on Monday, March 28, 2011 6:56 PM

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    AspDotNetDev
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    I figured out a shorter version that makes use of LINQ. I posted a tip/trick about it.

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    • N Nish Nishant

      VB.NET supports by-ref extension methods. As of 4.0, C# does not.

      Regards, Nish


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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Well the VB designers got Extension Methods right, the C# designers really screwed up big time. Extension Methods should be by attribute in both languages.

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        Fixed, thanks.

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        AspDotNetDev
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        Doesn't look fixed to me. Methinks you need to get the permalink from whatever message you are linking to.

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        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

          AspDotNetDev wrote:

          Maybe "End Sub" makes the code easier to read to somebody not initiated with the language, but it doesn't make the code any easier to write

          Which is a reasonable trade-off. You write code once and read it many times. Besides, with any decent editor, it is a non-issue.

          AspDotNetDev wrote:

          if (true)
          {

          I see unnecessary and confusing symbols here. For instance in Go, it would be something like:

          if true {

          Or (even better) in ML:

          if true then

          utf8-cpp

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          #41

          Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

          AspDotNetDev wrote:

          if (true)
          {

          If I had my way (and I don't), the braces would be mandatory and the parentheses would be optional.

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          • N Nemanja Trifunovic

            AspDotNetDev wrote:

            It is faster to read "{}" than "Then End If",

            Kind of. End If closes the block after If and that's it. To get what } does you need to be aware of the scope - sometimes even to scroll up a couple of pages. Sure, a good editor helps, but as far as a language goes I like End If better.

            utf8-cpp

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            #42

            See what happens when you remove all the newlines. Readable?

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            • A AspDotNetDev

              Doesn't look fixed to me. Methinks you need to get the permalink from whatever message you are linking to.

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              #43

              My post "Here's something else VB can't do".

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                My post "Here's something else VB can't do".

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                AspDotNetDev
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                #44

                Ah, link.

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                • A AspDotNetDev

                  There hasn't been a good "why language X sucks and language Y is better" thread in a good while, so I thought I'd start one. Unlike most, however, this one has rules. I will post a reason C# is better than VB.NET and somebody reply with a reason VB.NET is better than C#. I (or somebody else) will then reply to that message stating another reason C# is better. And so on. Also, you must show code examples (when appropriate). I'll start. C# Is Less Verbose

                  Public Sub Something()
                  ' VB.NET...
                  End Sub

                  public void Something()
                  {
                  // C#...
                  }

                  You're turn (post why VB.NET is better than C#). :)

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                  Michael Kingsford Gray
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                  #45

                  VB is better because I use it more often, and have more experience with it than C#. Do I get points for honesty?

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                  • A AspDotNetDev

                    There hasn't been a good "why language X sucks and language Y is better" thread in a good while, so I thought I'd start one. Unlike most, however, this one has rules. I will post a reason C# is better than VB.NET and somebody reply with a reason VB.NET is better than C#. I (or somebody else) will then reply to that message stating another reason C# is better. And so on. Also, you must show code examples (when appropriate). I'll start. C# Is Less Verbose

                    Public Sub Something()
                    ' VB.NET...
                    End Sub

                    public void Something()
                    {
                    // C#...
                    }

                    You're turn (post why VB.NET is better than C#). :)

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                    hairy_hats
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #46

                    AspDotNetDev wrote:

                    You're turn

                    Am I? ;P

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                    • A AspDotNetDev

                      That's pretty neat! But you can actually get pretty close to that in C#:

                      var steps = new List<Func<bool>> { Step1, Step2, Step3 };
                      foreach (var step in steps)
                      {
                      if (!step()) break;
                      }

                      And if you create this helper function:

                      void DoEach(params Func<bool>[] steps)
                      {
                      foreach (var step in steps)
                      {
                      if (!step()) break;
                      }
                      }

                      You can shorten that code even further:

                      DoEach(new Func<bool>[] {
                      Step1,
                      Step2,
                      Step3
                      });

                      Got to love delegate inference! Not sure, but I think there's something in LINQ that does something like this as well. Can't be bothered to try and find it now though.

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                      the Kris
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                      This can much shorter! Step1() && Step2() && Step3();

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Oh sorry, it's so well known that I didn't think you'd need code to back it up :-) See this blog post: http://blog.gadodia.net/extension-methods-in-vbnet-and-c/[^]

                        Regards, Nish


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                        Rob Grainger
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                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                        Oh sorry, it's so well known that I didn't think you'd need code to back it up

                        maybe in your part of the world - I've been using C# and VB for years but never came across this. Why you'd want to do it in a well designed program is questionable, but maybe there is a good reason somewhere.

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                        • A AspDotNetDev

                          I'll give an example reply as well... VB.NET is Backward Compatible with VB6

                          On Error GoTo ErrorHandler
                          Throw New Exception("Error!")
                          Return
                          

                          ErrorHandler:
                          MessageBox.Show("Darn!")

                          C# does not have this handy backward compatibility, so upgrading from VB6 is more difficult when going to C#.

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                          coding4ever
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                          AspDotNetDev wrote:

                          VB.NET is Backward Compatible with VB6

                          And this is supposed to be a good thing? ;P Though I will give you props for actually using an ErrorHandler and not simply going with On Error Resume Next like my predecessor did.

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                          • H hairy_hats

                            AspDotNetDev wrote:

                            You're turn

                            Am I? ;P

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                            raducu1
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                            #50

                            In VB.NET:

                            With longDescriptiveObjectName
                            .prop1 = ...
                            .prop2 = ...
                            .prop3 = ...
                            end with

                            In C#:

                            longDescriptiveObjectName.prop1 = ...
                            longDescriptiveObjectName.prop2 = ...
                            longDescriptiveObjectName.prop3 = ...

                            Which one is more verbose, then ?

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                            • H hairy_hats

                              AspDotNetDev wrote:

                              You're turn

                              Am I? ;P

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                              raducu1
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                              #51

                              Yes, you are VERY turn ! :((

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                              • N Nish Nishant

                                The VB Select-Case is more flexible than just that. Example from MSDN:

                                Dim number As Integer = 8
                                Select Case number
                                Case 1 To 5
                                Debug.WriteLine("Between 1 and 5, inclusive")
                                ' The following is the only Case clause that evaluates to True.
                                Case 6, 7, 8
                                Debug.WriteLine("Between 6 and 8, inclusive")
                                Case 9 To 10
                                Debug.WriteLine("Equal to 9 or 10")
                                Case Else
                                Debug.WriteLine("Not between 1 and 10, inclusive")
                                End Select

                                Regards, Nish


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                                Rick Shaub
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                                In C# you can use fall through cases for that in C#.

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                                • H hairy_hats

                                  AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                  You're turn

                                  Am I? ;P

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                                  raducu1
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                                  #53

                                  Again. if a=b { do something } What's unclear here ? However, the compiler stops me with the question - do you want to assign b to a ? No, I don't. Isn't it obvious what I want to do ? VB doesn't need this handholding. Also, why do I need to type if (a=b) { do something } and what do those fing paranthesis do there ? If I wanted to better delimit the clauses, for human eyes benefit only, I would do that, as in, say, if ((a=b) && (c=d)) { } Also... operators. I really don't care how awkwardly they were named in C, C++, etc, but really, people, baggage should NOT be carried forward && instead of AND ? || instead of OR ? != instead of <> ! instead of NOT ? No, really, what am I ? A compiler ? My hands won't fall off if I type (cond1) AND (cond2) instead of (cond1) && (cond2). There's one extra character and it's so much clearer ! Why do so many people love cryptic code ? It's not like the writer of that code will seem to be any smarter ! Also, the compiler stops and hits me with a brick saying that in the line variable1 = "abc" variable2 = 5; I have missed the ending ; on the first line. Well... if you compiler are so sure about my missing of that fing semicolon, why don't you put it there ? Warn me, color it bright red, make it blink, but put it there if you are so sure I've missed it. Help me a bit. I write in C#, and I really like it, don't get me wrong. But that doesn't make me not see these (and others) things.

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    There hasn't been a good "why language X sucks and language Y is better" thread in a good while, so I thought I'd start one. Unlike most, however, this one has rules. I will post a reason C# is better than VB.NET and somebody reply with a reason VB.NET is better than C#. I (or somebody else) will then reply to that message stating another reason C# is better. And so on. Also, you must show code examples (when appropriate). I'll start. C# Is Less Verbose

                                    Public Sub Something()
                                    ' VB.NET...
                                    End Sub

                                    public void Something()
                                    {
                                    // C#...
                                    }

                                    You're turn (post why VB.NET is better than C#). :)

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                                    frattaro
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                                    Ever tried writing dynamic (X/HT)ML?

                                    Dim header =

                                    <%= publicationdate %>

                                    That's a lot easier than anything in C#. Stringbuilders, XMLwriters, whatever... doesn't beat VB.NET's XML Literals.

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                                    • A AspDotNetDev

                                      There hasn't been a good "why language X sucks and language Y is better" thread in a good while, so I thought I'd start one. Unlike most, however, this one has rules. I will post a reason C# is better than VB.NET and somebody reply with a reason VB.NET is better than C#. I (or somebody else) will then reply to that message stating another reason C# is better. And so on. Also, you must show code examples (when appropriate). I'll start. C# Is Less Verbose

                                      Public Sub Something()
                                      ' VB.NET...
                                      End Sub

                                      public void Something()
                                      {
                                      // C#...
                                      }

                                      You're turn (post why VB.NET is better than C#). :)

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                                      Smohd5
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                                      Your code snippet shows they are equal because the code are generated by the IDE

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                                      • C coding4ever

                                        AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                        VB.NET is Backward Compatible with VB6

                                        And this is supposed to be a good thing? ;P Though I will give you props for actually using an ErrorHandler and not simply going with On Error Resume Next like my predecessor did.

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                                        Sterling Camden independent consultant
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                                        And actually, it isn't. Migrating VB6 code to VB.NET can be a royal pain, and usually ends up as a rewrite (in C#).

                                        Contains coding, but not narcotic.

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                                        • A AspDotNetDev

                                          I'll give an example reply as well... VB.NET is Backward Compatible with VB6

                                          On Error GoTo ErrorHandler
                                          Throw New Exception("Error!")
                                          Return
                                          

                                          ErrorHandler:
                                          MessageBox.Show("Darn!")

                                          C# does not have this handy backward compatibility, so upgrading from VB6 is more difficult when going to C#.

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                                          programmervb netc
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                                          He said post something that makes it better just kidding. Humble Programmer

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