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  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

    AspDotNetDev wrote:

    Maybe "End Sub" makes the code easier to read to somebody not initiated with the language, but it doesn't make the code any easier to write

    Which is a reasonable trade-off. You write code once and read it many times. Besides, with any decent editor, it is a non-issue.

    AspDotNetDev wrote:

    if (true)
    {

    I see unnecessary and confusing symbols here. For instance in Go, it would be something like:

    if true {

    Or (even better) in ML:

    if true then

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    #41

    Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

    AspDotNetDev wrote:

    if (true)
    {

    If I had my way (and I don't), the braces would be mandatory and the parentheses would be optional.

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    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

      AspDotNetDev wrote:

      It is faster to read "{}" than "Then End If",

      Kind of. End If closes the block after If and that's it. To get what } does you need to be aware of the scope - sometimes even to scroll up a couple of pages. Sure, a good editor helps, but as far as a language goes I like End If better.

      utf8-cpp

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      #42

      See what happens when you remove all the newlines. Readable?

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      • A AspDotNetDev

        Doesn't look fixed to me. Methinks you need to get the permalink from whatever message you are linking to.

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        My post "Here's something else VB can't do".

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          My post "Here's something else VB can't do".

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          AspDotNetDev
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          #44

          Ah, link.

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          • A AspDotNetDev

            There hasn't been a good "why language X sucks and language Y is better" thread in a good while, so I thought I'd start one. Unlike most, however, this one has rules. I will post a reason C# is better than VB.NET and somebody reply with a reason VB.NET is better than C#. I (or somebody else) will then reply to that message stating another reason C# is better. And so on. Also, you must show code examples (when appropriate). I'll start. C# Is Less Verbose

            Public Sub Something()
            ' VB.NET...
            End Sub

            public void Something()
            {
            // C#...
            }

            You're turn (post why VB.NET is better than C#). :)

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            Michael Kingsford Gray
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            VB is better because I use it more often, and have more experience with it than C#. Do I get points for honesty?

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            • A AspDotNetDev

              There hasn't been a good "why language X sucks and language Y is better" thread in a good while, so I thought I'd start one. Unlike most, however, this one has rules. I will post a reason C# is better than VB.NET and somebody reply with a reason VB.NET is better than C#. I (or somebody else) will then reply to that message stating another reason C# is better. And so on. Also, you must show code examples (when appropriate). I'll start. C# Is Less Verbose

              Public Sub Something()
              ' VB.NET...
              End Sub

              public void Something()
              {
              // C#...
              }

              You're turn (post why VB.NET is better than C#). :)

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              hairy_hats
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              AspDotNetDev wrote:

              You're turn

              Am I? ;P

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              • A AspDotNetDev

                That's pretty neat! But you can actually get pretty close to that in C#:

                var steps = new List<Func<bool>> { Step1, Step2, Step3 };
                foreach (var step in steps)
                {
                if (!step()) break;
                }

                And if you create this helper function:

                void DoEach(params Func<bool>[] steps)
                {
                foreach (var step in steps)
                {
                if (!step()) break;
                }
                }

                You can shorten that code even further:

                DoEach(new Func<bool>[] {
                Step1,
                Step2,
                Step3
                });

                Got to love delegate inference! Not sure, but I think there's something in LINQ that does something like this as well. Can't be bothered to try and find it now though.

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                the Kris
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                This can much shorter! Step1() && Step2() && Step3();

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  Oh sorry, it's so well known that I didn't think you'd need code to back it up :-) See this blog post: http://blog.gadodia.net/extension-methods-in-vbnet-and-c/[^]

                  Regards, Nish


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                  Rob Grainger
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                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                  Oh sorry, it's so well known that I didn't think you'd need code to back it up

                  maybe in your part of the world - I've been using C# and VB for years but never came across this. Why you'd want to do it in a well designed program is questionable, but maybe there is a good reason somewhere.

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                  • A AspDotNetDev

                    I'll give an example reply as well... VB.NET is Backward Compatible with VB6

                    On Error GoTo ErrorHandler
                    Throw New Exception("Error!")
                    Return
                    

                    ErrorHandler:
                    MessageBox.Show("Darn!")

                    C# does not have this handy backward compatibility, so upgrading from VB6 is more difficult when going to C#.

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                    coding4ever
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                    AspDotNetDev wrote:

                    VB.NET is Backward Compatible with VB6

                    And this is supposed to be a good thing? ;P Though I will give you props for actually using an ErrorHandler and not simply going with On Error Resume Next like my predecessor did.

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                    • H hairy_hats

                      AspDotNetDev wrote:

                      You're turn

                      Am I? ;P

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                      raducu1
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                      In VB.NET:

                      With longDescriptiveObjectName
                      .prop1 = ...
                      .prop2 = ...
                      .prop3 = ...
                      end with

                      In C#:

                      longDescriptiveObjectName.prop1 = ...
                      longDescriptiveObjectName.prop2 = ...
                      longDescriptiveObjectName.prop3 = ...

                      Which one is more verbose, then ?

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                      • H hairy_hats

                        AspDotNetDev wrote:

                        You're turn

                        Am I? ;P

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                        raducu1
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                        Yes, you are VERY turn ! :((

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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          The VB Select-Case is more flexible than just that. Example from MSDN:

                          Dim number As Integer = 8
                          Select Case number
                          Case 1 To 5
                          Debug.WriteLine("Between 1 and 5, inclusive")
                          ' The following is the only Case clause that evaluates to True.
                          Case 6, 7, 8
                          Debug.WriteLine("Between 6 and 8, inclusive")
                          Case 9 To 10
                          Debug.WriteLine("Equal to 9 or 10")
                          Case Else
                          Debug.WriteLine("Not between 1 and 10, inclusive")
                          End Select

                          Regards, Nish


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                          Rick Shaub
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                          In C# you can use fall through cases for that in C#.

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                          • H hairy_hats

                            AspDotNetDev wrote:

                            You're turn

                            Am I? ;P

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                            raducu1
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                            Again. if a=b { do something } What's unclear here ? However, the compiler stops me with the question - do you want to assign b to a ? No, I don't. Isn't it obvious what I want to do ? VB doesn't need this handholding. Also, why do I need to type if (a=b) { do something } and what do those fing paranthesis do there ? If I wanted to better delimit the clauses, for human eyes benefit only, I would do that, as in, say, if ((a=b) && (c=d)) { } Also... operators. I really don't care how awkwardly they were named in C, C++, etc, but really, people, baggage should NOT be carried forward && instead of AND ? || instead of OR ? != instead of <> ! instead of NOT ? No, really, what am I ? A compiler ? My hands won't fall off if I type (cond1) AND (cond2) instead of (cond1) && (cond2). There's one extra character and it's so much clearer ! Why do so many people love cryptic code ? It's not like the writer of that code will seem to be any smarter ! Also, the compiler stops and hits me with a brick saying that in the line variable1 = "abc" variable2 = 5; I have missed the ending ; on the first line. Well... if you compiler are so sure about my missing of that fing semicolon, why don't you put it there ? Warn me, color it bright red, make it blink, but put it there if you are so sure I've missed it. Help me a bit. I write in C#, and I really like it, don't get me wrong. But that doesn't make me not see these (and others) things.

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                            • A AspDotNetDev

                              There hasn't been a good "why language X sucks and language Y is better" thread in a good while, so I thought I'd start one. Unlike most, however, this one has rules. I will post a reason C# is better than VB.NET and somebody reply with a reason VB.NET is better than C#. I (or somebody else) will then reply to that message stating another reason C# is better. And so on. Also, you must show code examples (when appropriate). I'll start. C# Is Less Verbose

                              Public Sub Something()
                              ' VB.NET...
                              End Sub

                              public void Something()
                              {
                              // C#...
                              }

                              You're turn (post why VB.NET is better than C#). :)

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                              frattaro
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                              Ever tried writing dynamic (X/HT)ML?

                              Dim header =

                              <%= publicationdate %>

                              That's a lot easier than anything in C#. Stringbuilders, XMLwriters, whatever... doesn't beat VB.NET's XML Literals.

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                                There hasn't been a good "why language X sucks and language Y is better" thread in a good while, so I thought I'd start one. Unlike most, however, this one has rules. I will post a reason C# is better than VB.NET and somebody reply with a reason VB.NET is better than C#. I (or somebody else) will then reply to that message stating another reason C# is better. And so on. Also, you must show code examples (when appropriate). I'll start. C# Is Less Verbose

                                Public Sub Something()
                                ' VB.NET...
                                End Sub

                                public void Something()
                                {
                                // C#...
                                }

                                You're turn (post why VB.NET is better than C#). :)

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                                Smohd5
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                                Your code snippet shows they are equal because the code are generated by the IDE

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                                • C coding4ever

                                  AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                  VB.NET is Backward Compatible with VB6

                                  And this is supposed to be a good thing? ;P Though I will give you props for actually using an ErrorHandler and not simply going with On Error Resume Next like my predecessor did.

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                                  Sterling Camden independent consultant
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                                  And actually, it isn't. Migrating VB6 code to VB.NET can be a royal pain, and usually ends up as a rewrite (in C#).

                                  Contains coding, but not narcotic.

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    I'll give an example reply as well... VB.NET is Backward Compatible with VB6

                                    On Error GoTo ErrorHandler
                                    Throw New Exception("Error!")
                                    Return
                                    

                                    ErrorHandler:
                                    MessageBox.Show("Darn!")

                                    C# does not have this handy backward compatibility, so upgrading from VB6 is more difficult when going to C#.

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                                    programmervb netc
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                                    He said post something that makes it better just kidding. Humble Programmer

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                                    • T the Kris

                                      This can much shorter! Step1() && Step2() && Step3();

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                                      AspDotNetDev
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                                      True, but it can only be used with a boolean value. The others can work with non-boolean values.

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                                        Ever tried writing dynamic (X/HT)ML?

                                        Dim header =

                                        <%= publicationdate %>

                                        That's a lot easier than anything in C#. Stringbuilders, XMLwriters, whatever... doesn't beat VB.NET's XML Literals.

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                                        AspDotNetDev
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                                        Yeah, that is nice.

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                                        • S Smohd5

                                          Your code snippet shows they are equal because the code are generated by the IDE

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                                          AspDotNetDev
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                                          Huh? Did you reply to the right message? I don't know what you mean.

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