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  • M Mark Miller

    On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

    Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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    Eric Lynch
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    Meh...I've seen worse, but its nice to see someone be self-aware for a change. In fairness, the initial proposition was silly (and oft-repeated). Languages are simply tools. My current favorite is C#, but that changes easily, depending on the size of the paycheck :)

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    • S Slacker007

      After reading the other replies you made, it looks like you were in a bad mood of sorts? Anyhow, it probably will not be the last time you vent like that. I have been warned many times in the last 11+ years here that I am acting like an asshole, and need to stop. Recently I was threatened with a temporary ban after pooping all over the Soapbox. That was a wake up call. Cheers. :)

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      Mark Miller
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      Slacker007 wrote:

      looks like you were in a bad mood of sorts?

      Very perceptive - didn't feel like a bad mood, but it was Monday morning after a wonderful weekend with family...

      Slacker007 wrote:

      probably will not be the last time you vent like that

      You are probably right about that! ;)

      Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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      • RaviBeeR RaviBee

        You're a good man, Mark.  :thumbsup: /ravi

        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        Mark Miller
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        Thanks, Ravi!

        Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          Mark Miller
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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

          Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)

          Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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          • F Forogar

            TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS.... Oh, sorry. Got carried away for a moment there. :-\

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            Mark Miller
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            :laugh: :laugh: :thumbsup:

            Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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            • M Mark Miller

              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

              Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)

              Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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              Slacker007
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              John has been using that line sporadically here at the site for many, many years now.

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                John has been using that line sporadically here at the site for many, many years now.

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                Rage
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                John Wayne was a Cpian ??

                Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                • M Mark Miller

                  On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                  Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                  Rage
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                  Mark Miller wrote:

                  in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for

                  SO you behaved like 99.99999999% of the people already behaved once on the internet ? You do not need to apologize for being human.

                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                    John Wayne was a Cpian ??

                    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                    Slacker007
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                    Um, err, John Simmons IS John Wayne! I thought everyone knew that. :)

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                    • M Mark Miller

                      On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                      Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                      kmoorevs
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                      It didn't seem that bad to me...I've seen (and on occasion said) worse here. I saw 'TIOBE' in that post and lost interest immediately. That index has already been discussed here (by that same member) and the general consensus then is that it is rubbish. It really shouldn't have been brought up again, unless the goal was to get rep points. It does piss me off to see members get evangelical about their programming language of Choice dismissing anything else as inferior. Programming languages are tools to get a job done...between VB as C#, it all boils down to MSIL anyway. I use both but actually prefer to avoid the semi-colons and braces. IMHO, that's a better argument than the fact that a language must be garbage because it still contains a construct (on error resume next) that good programmers know to avoid. Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)

                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:

                        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                        Richard Deeming
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                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                        VB.NET was my first programming language

                        Great, now I really feel old! :laugh: This[^] is where I started.


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                        • K kmoorevs

                          It didn't seem that bad to me...I've seen (and on occasion said) worse here. I saw 'TIOBE' in that post and lost interest immediately. That index has already been discussed here (by that same member) and the general consensus then is that it is rubbish. It really shouldn't have been brought up again, unless the goal was to get rep points. It does piss me off to see members get evangelical about their programming language of Choice dismissing anything else as inferior. Programming languages are tools to get a job done...between VB as C#, it all boils down to MSIL anyway. I use both but actually prefer to avoid the semi-colons and braces. IMHO, that's a better argument than the fact that a language must be garbage because it still contains a construct (on error resume next) that good programmers know to avoid. Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)

                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                          Mark Miller
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                          kmoorevs wrote:

                          Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)

                          Completely agree. I've seen good and bad coding in many languages. :)

                          Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                          • M Mark Miller

                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

                            Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)

                            Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                            realJSOP
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                            Actually, John Wayne said it in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              Um, err, John Simmons IS John Wayne! I thought everyone knew that. :)

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                              realJSOP
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                              I'm not John Wayne, but I kicked his ass a couple of times. Chuck Norris, too...

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              • M Mark Miller

                                kmoorevs wrote:

                                Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)

                                Completely agree. I've seen good and bad coding in many languages. :)

                                Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                But most of the truly horrendous coding honestly happens in Hindi Visual Basic...

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  I'm not John Wayne, but I kicked his ass a couple of times. Chuck Norris, too...

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  :laugh: :thumbsup:

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                                    TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS.... Oh, sorry. Got carried away for a moment there. :-\

                                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                    Forogar wrote:

                                    TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS....

                                    Maunder is a spaces bloke, so just watch out if your account starts acting funny.

                                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                    • M Mark Miller

                                      On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                                      Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                      Mycroft Holmes
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                                      Ah you were caught feeding the troll as well. Most of us can't resist doing that :laugh:

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                      • M Mark Miller

                                        On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                                        Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                        Lost User
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                                        It looks like a genuine apology and I give you full credit. Contrition is rarely witnessed in this or other forums and your example is refreshing.

                                        Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                                        • S S Douglas

                                          You are not supposed to mention that name. It some how summons the dark forces! While those old flame wars could be amusing, they did get long in the tooth.


                                          Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                                          Eytukan
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                                          Rofl! Glad you remember.

                                          Full Reset

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