spin vector wrote: you can read exactly how it is done. I am quite familiar with how it is done. I was pointing out that most algorithms are patented, as both a warning, and information since as you pointed out they all can be searched online. What someone chooses to do with that information, learn, use, or find another way is up to them. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

i am not a great fan of Hershey's, but you are definitely on the right track for getting the post :) this is not bribery, it is considered: * showing a proper appreciation of the work place ethic * knowing how to enhance happiness and cooperation with your collages * you are bringing something valuable to the table *radiates open innocence* zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness

Well, in today's world, if you are designing games (as I was not limiting programmers to just the game field), you need a major backer as it takes years and hundreds of programmers, graphic designers, marketers, lawers, etc. Even with this in mind, I think if you got together with other professionals, designed and built a game, the rewards on just one game could retire everyone involved in the project. I mean, when MS pulls $125 million on opening day for a game, there is profit, if you can deliver quality, game play and have the correct marketing. The problem with computer developers today is that most of them believe they have to work for someone else. There is no thought that they could coop with others professionals and work as a team of their own. Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com - Now with "Recommendation" postings www.JokesTricksAndStuff.com www.MyQuickPoll.com - Now with RSS Feed and Prizes www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com - Again :)

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Henry miller wrote: This stupid have more children, but their children are more likely to die without reproducing too. The odds of someone dying by stupidity before they reproduce is an insignificant factor when compared to the number of children they tend to have. For example, if (on average) stupid people have 4 children and smart people have 2, then for the "intelligence balance" to remain constant, fully 50% of stupid people must die before reproducing. As a society, we are nowhere close to having 50% of stupid people die before reproducing. ----------------------------------------------------- Bush To Iraqi Militants: 'Please Stop Bringing It On' - The Onion "Moore's prominent presence in the news brings to light some serious questions, such as 'Can't he at least try to look presentable?'" - The Onion

Did anyone else hear Gilbert Godfried's voice while reading that?:rolleyes: "For all of our languages, we cannot communicate" - Christy Moore, Natives

Ig Nobel prize for Physics awarded in 1996 (http://www.improb.com/ig/ig-pastwinners.html#ig1996[^]) to Robert Matthews of Aston University, England, "for his studies of Murphy's Law, and especially for demonstrating that toast often falls on the buttered side." Scarily, also my (and Ian Darling's) alma mater, although we were CS students rather than Physics. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

All they're doing is overclocking 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 system and charging a 40% premium for doing that. Ironically, for their claims of speed they aren't using 10,000 RPM drives and they're using relatively slow onboard audio. On top of that their warranty stinks. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

Sijin wrote: Yeah Daniel I remember It didn't seem so :) Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski

Ian Darling wrote: Tweakomatic[^] I'm going to take a guess that Paul DiLascia (who writes the C++ Q&A for MSDN Magazine) wrote this. He edited an article I once wrote for MSJ Magazine and tossed in some nice humor for me. If you read his C++ column, you know he's a real witty guy. It's the first part of the mag I go to each month. I may be wrong, but it sure sounds like him. C'mon Paul, fess up! QRZ? de WAØTTN

Yeah, I guess you first gotta put on a pair of glasses with really thick lenses to get in the proper mood. ;) Regards, Alvaro "I do" is both the shortest and the longest sentence in the English language.

Ditto, 2K Pro at the office, XP Pro at home and on my laptop. Steve

Very old repost, but then the old ones are the best ones! :-) I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe Jerry Davis http://www.astad.org http://www.jvf.co.uk

I think you should write the article because it will likely shed light on some the claims obfuscator vendors make about their products. A lot of organizations are gaining a perhaps false sense of security based on commercial obfuscator vendors' claims. I think your idea adds value since it will likely make the commercial products better and perhaps give others a means to confirm the vendors' claims. Erik Westermann

I had a similar experience with spam email. The subject lines were very similar to some of the mail sitting in my inbox. I don't know if perhaps some legitimate emailer sold them what he had putin the subject line or there is some javascript way of grabbing this. I do know that you can read the history (everything in the dropdown box) with some versions of javascript. My neighbours think I am crazy - but they don't know that I have a trampoline. All they see my head bobbing up and down over the fence every five seconds

Sijin wrote: What i was asking is if a human being is born without any input senses, would he become concious of 'self'? I think the more appropriate way to ask the question is: Is it possible to be aware of nothing except 'self'? (or at the very least to be conscious of nothing but being conscious). I see no reason why it shouldn't be possible, although what would your concept of 'self' be if you had nothing external to 'self' to compare it to? Sijin wrote: I don't quite follow that one I don't understand what consciousness is. But I also simply do not understand how something that is non-conscious can give rise to something that is. How could you so arrange non-concious matter so that consciousness could somehow explode out of it? The entire notion seems ludicrous to me. I think it is much more likely that the brain is an organ that has evolved around the existence of consciousness in exactly the same way that the eye has evolved around the existence of light. That is, whatever it is that we are experience as consciousness is, in fact, a fundamental property of the universe. Our brains are not generating it, they are focusing it and giving it content. Sijin wrote: So what i wam saying is that people with no memory at all, neither short-term or long-term would not be self-aware. What do you think? Well I think you're correct, memory would be essential for developing self identity. That presents an interesting point. To make significant use of consciouness you do in fact need an information storage mechanism of some kind. I sort of wonder if we are actually ever trully conscious of the present moment, perhaps we don't become conscious of an event until immediately after it has been stored in memory, part of the past, and not while it is actually happening. The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism, but under then name of Liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program until one day America will be a Socialist nation without knowing how it happened. - Norman Thomas, Socialist Party Presidential candidate

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Douglas Troy wrote: After 2 years, you introduce new improved MS Milk from improved MS Cows. ... which are no longer compatible with the industry-standard grass, and require farmers to re-seed all their fields w/ MS-approved 'moo grass'. Of course, 'moo grass' is more expensive and indigestible by old-style cows. :-D

Or maybe because that's where you trade packets. :rolleyes: Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa