Garth J Lancaster wrote: GerBill - I like that.. it seems as though (as with all beauracracy) its going very slowly, although (from a rank outsider's point of view)it should bring the UK into step with some of the 'more advanced' EU member countries - maybe thats why its going so slow, having to cross reference laws here and there. I think it's going so slow because that's the way Government works...having read the transcripts of the debates it's a long and largely thorough process. The Government have resisted all attempts to render the Bill ineffective (most notably by that relic Tebbit in the Lords) but have also refused to allow pre-existing marriages to be preserved. It is heartening to see that giving us our rights back has cross-party support though....even if the Bill is riddled with compromises and will be some time coming yet. Garth J Lancaster wrote: As expected, it seems like 'more liberal' countries like Sweden, Denmark lead the way, although as you point out, one can't go past the Thai people for their acceptance and understanding (I wonder what their legal system makes of it) Actually, Sweden is one of the most backward countries in the EU when it comes to the medical treatment available to us. I know of several Swedish transwomen who're dispairing at ever receiving treatment. Remarkably, their best bet seems to be to move elseware in the EU. By contrast transpeople are part of Thai culture (and accepted as a result) but have no legal rights (the can't change their passports, for example) and as a result are widely discriminated against in employment. Medical treatment is very readily available, however. Garth J Lancaster wrote: I also wonder what current situation is down here in Aus - it wasnt that long ago that it used to be illegal to have a homosexual relationship - particularly in Western Australia and Tasmania (in fact, it probably still is.....) Actually, things seem to be moving in Australia - as news reports such as these testify: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TNUKdigest/message/8939[^] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TNUKdigest/message/8986[^]