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  • FYI, information on GISS, NOAA, CRUT station coverage

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    Just caught up with the Coastwatch saga[^]. Coastwatch apologises: NOTICE: Due to degradation of a satellite sensor used by this mapping product, some images have exhibited extreme high and low surface temperatures. Please disregard these images as anomalies. Future images will not include data from the degraded satellite and images caused by the faulty satellite sensor will be/have been removed from the image archive. All well and good, but why were the anomalies allowed to appear? Coastwatch is completely automated so you can see how something like this could slip through. Chuck Pistis Program Coordinator Er, no Chuck, I can't. Data processing lesson #1 - GIGO, circa 1956 Was it possible for this data to 'slip through' into the the data bank that is being used as the basis for future economic policy. I would doubt it, but ... ? Hence my support of those from other disciplines questioning the provenance and processing of data. Bob Emmett "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" -Charles Babbage, Passages from the Life of a Philosopher
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    you're very naughty !!! Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
  • Completely Denied Conspiracy

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    minnie mouse wrote: Whats that white thing on the dirt, a bed pan ? I'd guess it's a piece of packing material from some equipment they unloaded. We just were environmentally sensitive enough in those days to pack out the trash. :omg: minnie mouse wrote: Also the moons not round or its bigger than we all thought ? And how much curvature do you think should be on the horizon? Or what's your point? You sound like an expert so back it up. :suss: Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
  • The Psychology of Conspiracy Denial

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    http://seemslegit.com/_images/1968002cf4b670d96a6f9dff32fb855c/652%20-%20animals%20dog%20sprinkler%20wharrgarbl.jpg[^]
  • Who's Stupid Then?

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  • Not a Lounge Joke

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    Dalek Dave wrote: Tastes ok though. If you like anchovies. :-D Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
  • The Second American Revolution

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    Actually, the idea of a Welsh nation pre-dates the anglo-saxon conquest, and it continued on right until the 13th Century. The battle of HeavenField for example, was fought between the Welsh King(s? - seem to remeber there were two for some reason?) and the King Oswald in Northumbria (as an interesting aside Oswald was decapitated, but the Northumbrians won, it is unusual for the king to die but for his side to prevail). In the early middle ages, Wales had the status of a Principality, but was still a nation (cf Modern Luxembourg: It is technically a Dutchy, a Country rules by a Grand Duke). Incidentally, Dutchy is a truer description of English Kingship, as the King/Queen of England is "Prima Inter Pares"??? (First amoung equals) to the rest of the aristocracy (hence the use of peer, "equal"). The English crown doesn't have a patrimony (These where actually lost when Normandy, Anjou and Aquitaine fell to the French), the lands the Queen currently holds actually fall under different titles. Compare this with the French Kings, who had absolute power (by "devine right") and their patrinomic land is the Ile-de-France. The loss of the patrinomic lands benefited the English greatly, as it then required the King to raise taxes through parliament. Legally Wales and England have been the same political entity for a long time, though this has only been the case since at least the 13th century. One purpose of investing the Heir of the British throne the title Prince of Wales was historically to allowed the prince to run a country-sized entity in preparation to their accession. Additionally, it kept the prince occupied, so they didn't spend so much time trying to overthrow their father. Look what happens when this failed, as in the case of Henry II. Ouch. ragnaroknrol The Internet is For Porn[^] Pete o'Hanlon: If it wasn't insulting tools, I'd say you were dumber than a bag of spanners.
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    So was I. L u n a t i c F r i n g e
  • New York Times and Other Media Pushing for Drugging Water Supply

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    Don't be!!! The Alex Jones' DimboWars Store The world's ultimate in water filtration.[^] A constant flow of clean, fresh drinking water for you, and a constant, healthy cash flow for Uncle Al. Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
  • The most pitiable thing I've seen for a while...

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    Hey, at least he's talking about removing mind control with LSD, instead of removing billion-year-old martians[^] with a wheatstone bridge[^]. Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)
  • Ian Shlasko, can you provide proof that GW sceptics have lied?

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    riced wrote: That's an assumption Instrument changes tend to cause step variation in records, and are esy to spot. Of course gradual deterioration would be harder to see, but since they have been used fairly widely one eould expect this kind if thiing to have been handled correctly. For example, validating the instruments regularly is a key part of scientific rigour. Stick it in boiling waterm check it reads 100. Stick it in water at maximum densitym check it reads 4. Engineering companies regularly verify instruments. It all part of quality and accuracy. BTW I have worked a long time in engineering (mechanical) in R and D, which is kind of scientific in some ways so I know what I am talking about. Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
  • Oh I cant be bothered anymore

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    Nice! :)
  • That is just how You would have done it [modified]

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    Anyway, supposing that some of the things I mentioned turn out to be good after all, that does not help at all. There are always other imperfections. The real battle is here is not over the tiny little things I mentioned, but over the crazy idea that man (or some other creature) is "perfect" and therefore ID happened.
  • Public Service Announcement: Poison in the Food

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    9th-12th grade = High School 12th grade is the last before college (University), so about 18 years old. Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)
  • Field gun goes off, guy gets shell casing in the guts

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  • Need a shave anyone?

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    wolfbinary wrote: I didn't notice the date. Sorry, but it was a repost. It's time for a new signature.
  • Wired: Google, CIA Invest in ‘Future’ of Web Monitoring [modified]

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    CaptainSeeSharp wrote: That is what the NSA specializes in. SIGINT. Yeah, right. There goes cryptography. :rolleyes: They do specialise in more effective ways of code breaking: bribery, torture, burglary, keystroke logging, and social engineering. So best stay under your bed with that num-num blanket. CaptainSeeSharp wrote: Someday privacy will be a crime. It surely will, if all the citizens of the USA are as servile as you. Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
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    :laugh: you'd get a 5,if I could! :laugh: Opacity, the new Transparency.
  • Terry Jones is a douchebag

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    Not that Terry Jones lol
  • Hello, CSS

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    Josh Gray wrote: friendly, generous and welcoming In Amsterdam?? :wtf: