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  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

    I didn't add all those line breaks in the message it just occurs when I did the table?

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    MidwestLimey
    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    Excuses, excuses ... -0.0039485 per hour for you! :D


    I'm largely language agnostic


    After a while they all bug me :doh:


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    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

      I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

      Fulltime USD Per Annum

      Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

      Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

      20000

      16.2990196078431

      18.4722222222222

      25000

      20.3737745098039

      23.0902777777778

      30000

      24.4485294117647

      27.7083333333333

      35000

      28.5232843137255

      32.3263888888889

      40000

      32.5980392156863

      36.9444444444444

      45000

      36.6727941176471

      41.5625

      50000

      40.7475490196078

      46.1805555555556

      55000

      44.8223039215686

      50.7986111111111

      65000

      52.9718137254902

      60.0347222222222

      70000

      57.046568627451

      64.6527777777778

      85000

      69.2708333333333

      78.5069444444444

      90000

      73.3455882352941

      83.125

      95000

      77.4203431372549

      87.7430555555556

      100000

      81.4950980392157

      92.3611111111111

      105000

      85.5698529411765

      96.9791666666667

      110000

      89.6446078431373

      101.597222222222

      115000

      93.719362745098

      106.215277777778

      120000

      97.7941176470588

      110.833333333333

      125000

      101.86887254902

      115.451388888889

      130000

      105.94362745098

      120.069444444444

      135000

      110.018382352941

      124.6875

      140000

      114.093137254902

      129.305555555556

      145000

      118.167892156863

      133.923611111111

      150000

      122.242647058824

      138.541666666667

      155000

      126.317401960784

      143.159722222222

      165000

      134.466911764706

      152.3958333333

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      Xiangyang Liu
      wrote on last edited by
      #4

      Wow, I like the amount of money I could have made doing consulting and felt bad that I did not. :-D

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      • X Xiangyang Liu

        Wow, I like the amount of money I could have made doing consulting and felt bad that I did not. :-D

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        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        Well it isn't an amount but a direct correlation. If you think you are worth, let's say $50k a year annual salary you should charge $41 an hour for a 6 month contract. In the end it will be about the same on the annual taxes.

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        • M MidwestLimey

          Excuses, excuses ... -0.0039485 per hour for you! :D


          I'm largely language agnostic


          After a while they all bug me :doh:


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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          Yeah, on my blog I am going to format it but when I post on CP I have to allow little errors in my comments so people can offer funny critiques.

          Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
          Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

            Well it isn't an amount but a direct correlation. If you think you are worth, let's say $50k a year annual salary you should charge $41 an hour for a 6 month contract. In the end it will be about the same on the annual taxes.

            Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
            Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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            PIEBALDconsult
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            No, 92, and take the other six months off.

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            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

              I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

              Fulltime USD Per Annum

              Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

              Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

              20000

              16.2990196078431

              18.4722222222222

              25000

              20.3737745098039

              23.0902777777778

              30000

              24.4485294117647

              27.7083333333333

              35000

              28.5232843137255

              32.3263888888889

              40000

              32.5980392156863

              36.9444444444444

              45000

              36.6727941176471

              41.5625

              50000

              40.7475490196078

              46.1805555555556

              55000

              44.8223039215686

              50.7986111111111

              65000

              52.9718137254902

              60.0347222222222

              70000

              57.046568627451

              64.6527777777778

              85000

              69.2708333333333

              78.5069444444444

              90000

              73.3455882352941

              83.125

              95000

              77.4203431372549

              87.7430555555556

              100000

              81.4950980392157

              92.3611111111111

              105000

              85.5698529411765

              96.9791666666667

              110000

              89.6446078431373

              101.597222222222

              115000

              93.719362745098

              106.215277777778

              120000

              97.7941176470588

              110.833333333333

              125000

              101.86887254902

              115.451388888889

              130000

              105.94362745098

              120.069444444444

              135000

              110.018382352941

              124.6875

              140000

              114.093137254902

              129.305555555556

              145000

              118.167892156863

              133.923611111111

              150000

              122.242647058824

              138.541666666667

              155000

              126.317401960784

              143.159722222222

              165000

              134.466911764706

              152.3958333333

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              leppie
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              Would a simple function be easier? ;P IOW:

              Fulltime USD Per Annum: x
              Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr: x/1226
              Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr: x/1082

              :)

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

                Fulltime USD Per Annum

                Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

                Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

                20000

                16.2990196078431

                18.4722222222222

                25000

                20.3737745098039

                23.0902777777778

                30000

                24.4485294117647

                27.7083333333333

                35000

                28.5232843137255

                32.3263888888889

                40000

                32.5980392156863

                36.9444444444444

                45000

                36.6727941176471

                41.5625

                50000

                40.7475490196078

                46.1805555555556

                55000

                44.8223039215686

                50.7986111111111

                65000

                52.9718137254902

                60.0347222222222

                70000

                57.046568627451

                64.6527777777778

                85000

                69.2708333333333

                78.5069444444444

                90000

                73.3455882352941

                83.125

                95000

                77.4203431372549

                87.7430555555556

                100000

                81.4950980392157

                92.3611111111111

                105000

                85.5698529411765

                96.9791666666667

                110000

                89.6446078431373

                101.597222222222

                115000

                93.719362745098

                106.215277777778

                120000

                97.7941176470588

                110.833333333333

                125000

                101.86887254902

                115.451388888889

                130000

                105.94362745098

                120.069444444444

                135000

                110.018382352941

                124.6875

                140000

                114.093137254902

                129.305555555556

                145000

                118.167892156863

                133.923611111111

                150000

                122.242647058824

                138.541666666667

                155000

                126.317401960784

                143.159722222222

                165000

                134.466911764706

                152.3958333333

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                Rob Graham
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                so how did you arrive at the numbers? does this take into account the value of benefits (health ins., 401K contributions, holidays, vacations)? employer share of FICA/Medicare? How did you arrive at the penalty factor for no contract?

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                • L leppie

                  Would a simple function be easier? ;P IOW:

                  Fulltime USD Per Annum: x
                  Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr: x/1226
                  Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr: x/1082

                  :)

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  It would but then people would but I think people like tables. Plus looking at the divisor might incorrectly lead people to believe they only need to work that number of hours per year. When the actual result is only achieved with an effort to work 40 hours per week every week except for two weeks vacation and 10 holidays.

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                  • R Rob Graham

                    so how did you arrive at the numbers? does this take into account the value of benefits (health ins., 401K contributions, holidays, vacations)? employer share of FICA/Medicare? How did you arrive at the penalty factor for no contract?

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                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    It takes full into account health and benefits and fica medicare. There is some fudge factor based on down time between contracts. Up to %35 of your billable hours could be spent looking for contracts in some cases. Technically this is work, hard work, and needs to be accounted for. I like to think it can take up to 4 weeks to find a 6 month contract so I use, in my personal calculations a fudge factor of 8 weeks per year or 15% of available time as down time. The best way to use the number, let's use $50k again, is to say 41*1600 = 61,500 total expected revenue per year. $50k *.15 = FICA = $7500. Which leaves $4,000 for benefits. Which is a reasonable amount for someone with a $50k a year base salary. (I said reasonable not good) Of course, if you work more than 40 per week or have a better than average turn around on a contract you get the potential to earn profit.

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

                      Fulltime USD Per Annum

                      Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

                      Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

                      20000

                      16.2990196078431

                      18.4722222222222

                      25000

                      20.3737745098039

                      23.0902777777778

                      30000

                      24.4485294117647

                      27.7083333333333

                      35000

                      28.5232843137255

                      32.3263888888889

                      40000

                      32.5980392156863

                      36.9444444444444

                      45000

                      36.6727941176471

                      41.5625

                      50000

                      40.7475490196078

                      46.1805555555556

                      55000

                      44.8223039215686

                      50.7986111111111

                      65000

                      52.9718137254902

                      60.0347222222222

                      70000

                      57.046568627451

                      64.6527777777778

                      85000

                      69.2708333333333

                      78.5069444444444

                      90000

                      73.3455882352941

                      83.125

                      95000

                      77.4203431372549

                      87.7430555555556

                      100000

                      81.4950980392157

                      92.3611111111111

                      105000

                      85.5698529411765

                      96.9791666666667

                      110000

                      89.6446078431373

                      101.597222222222

                      115000

                      93.719362745098

                      106.215277777778

                      120000

                      97.7941176470588

                      110.833333333333

                      125000

                      101.86887254902

                      115.451388888889

                      130000

                      105.94362745098

                      120.069444444444

                      135000

                      110.018382352941

                      124.6875

                      140000

                      114.093137254902

                      129.305555555556

                      145000

                      118.167892156863

                      133.923611111111

                      150000

                      122.242647058824

                      138.541666666667

                      155000

                      126.317401960784

                      143.159722222222

                      165000

                      134.466911764706

                      152.3958333333

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                      Member 96
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      Why'd you stop at 180k? :) I'm guessing if I was a consultant my hourly rate would be through the roof. :cool:


                      "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot

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                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                        Yeah, on my blog I am going to format it but when I post on CP I have to allow little errors in my comments so people can offer funny critiques.

                        Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                        Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                        Member 96
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        :laugh: Even if there aren't any errors you'll get lot's of little critiques from this anal retentive bunch. :)


                        "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot

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                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                          I didn't add all those line breaks in the message it just occurs when I did the table?

                          Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                          Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                          Bruce Chapman DNN
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          It's an interesting table. Funnily enough you are within a couple of percent of what I charge / think I should earn if I were to get a job. Now I'd like to see a spreadsheet on how I can convince people that a $20/hr outsourced developer is not comparing apples with apples. Incidentally, do you advertise your rates or just save them up for when people ask?

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                          • B Bruce Chapman DNN

                            It's an interesting table. Funnily enough you are within a couple of percent of what I charge / think I should earn if I were to get a job. Now I'd like to see a spreadsheet on how I can convince people that a $20/hr outsourced developer is not comparing apples with apples. Incidentally, do you advertise your rates or just save them up for when people ask?

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                            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #15

                            I don't publish them online because there is so much competition online and many people will not call if they see you as too expensive. Its not top secret though, if it's something you are interested in send an email and I will give you the skinny.

                            Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                            Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                              I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

                              Fulltime USD Per Annum

                              Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

                              Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

                              20000

                              16.2990196078431

                              18.4722222222222

                              25000

                              20.3737745098039

                              23.0902777777778

                              30000

                              24.4485294117647

                              27.7083333333333

                              35000

                              28.5232843137255

                              32.3263888888889

                              40000

                              32.5980392156863

                              36.9444444444444

                              45000

                              36.6727941176471

                              41.5625

                              50000

                              40.7475490196078

                              46.1805555555556

                              55000

                              44.8223039215686

                              50.7986111111111

                              65000

                              52.9718137254902

                              60.0347222222222

                              70000

                              57.046568627451

                              64.6527777777778

                              85000

                              69.2708333333333

                              78.5069444444444

                              90000

                              73.3455882352941

                              83.125

                              95000

                              77.4203431372549

                              87.7430555555556

                              100000

                              81.4950980392157

                              92.3611111111111

                              105000

                              85.5698529411765

                              96.9791666666667

                              110000

                              89.6446078431373

                              101.597222222222

                              115000

                              93.719362745098

                              106.215277777778

                              120000

                              97.7941176470588

                              110.833333333333

                              125000

                              101.86887254902

                              115.451388888889

                              130000

                              105.94362745098

                              120.069444444444

                              135000

                              110.018382352941

                              124.6875

                              140000

                              114.093137254902

                              129.305555555556

                              145000

                              118.167892156863

                              133.923611111111

                              150000

                              122.242647058824

                              138.541666666667

                              155000

                              126.317401960784

                              143.159722222222

                              165000

                              134.466911764706

                              152.3958333333

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                              ftw melvin
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              I'd lose everything after the second decimal place for readability if you are going to post it. Interesting calculation, as a rule of thumb you are saying $1000 ~= 80c an hour. Converting this into English, if Joe Senior Dev earned around £40,000 per year they should only consider resuming contracting, after say six year's permanent frustration, if they were happy you could get £32 per hour consistently. I think you've made my Joe's mind up!

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                              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

                                Fulltime USD Per Annum

                                Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

                                Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

                                20000

                                16.2990196078431

                                18.4722222222222

                                25000

                                20.3737745098039

                                23.0902777777778

                                30000

                                24.4485294117647

                                27.7083333333333

                                35000

                                28.5232843137255

                                32.3263888888889

                                40000

                                32.5980392156863

                                36.9444444444444

                                45000

                                36.6727941176471

                                41.5625

                                50000

                                40.7475490196078

                                46.1805555555556

                                55000

                                44.8223039215686

                                50.7986111111111

                                65000

                                52.9718137254902

                                60.0347222222222

                                70000

                                57.046568627451

                                64.6527777777778

                                85000

                                69.2708333333333

                                78.5069444444444

                                90000

                                73.3455882352941

                                83.125

                                95000

                                77.4203431372549

                                87.7430555555556

                                100000

                                81.4950980392157

                                92.3611111111111

                                105000

                                85.5698529411765

                                96.9791666666667

                                110000

                                89.6446078431373

                                101.597222222222

                                115000

                                93.719362745098

                                106.215277777778

                                120000

                                97.7941176470588

                                110.833333333333

                                125000

                                101.86887254902

                                115.451388888889

                                130000

                                105.94362745098

                                120.069444444444

                                135000

                                110.018382352941

                                124.6875

                                140000

                                114.093137254902

                                129.305555555556

                                145000

                                118.167892156863

                                133.923611111111

                                150000

                                122.242647058824

                                138.541666666667

                                155000

                                126.317401960784

                                143.159722222222

                                165000

                                134.466911764706

                                152.3958333333

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                                ftw melvin
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #17

                                http://www.contractorcalculator.co.uk/[^]

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                                  http://www.contractorcalculator.co.uk/[^]

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                                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  The results of that calculator are no where near my results. I think mine are more realistic.

                                  Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
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                                  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                    The results of that calculator are no where near my results. I think mine are more realistic.

                                    Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
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                                    ftw melvin
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                                    I'm sure yours are well researched, the tax conditions in the UK compared to the USA are quite different which could account for the difference. Just wanted to show you an alternative.

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