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  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

    I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

    Fulltime USD Per Annum

    Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

    Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

    20000

    16.2990196078431

    18.4722222222222

    25000

    20.3737745098039

    23.0902777777778

    30000

    24.4485294117647

    27.7083333333333

    35000

    28.5232843137255

    32.3263888888889

    40000

    32.5980392156863

    36.9444444444444

    45000

    36.6727941176471

    41.5625

    50000

    40.7475490196078

    46.1805555555556

    55000

    44.8223039215686

    50.7986111111111

    65000

    52.9718137254902

    60.0347222222222

    70000

    57.046568627451

    64.6527777777778

    85000

    69.2708333333333

    78.5069444444444

    90000

    73.3455882352941

    83.125

    95000

    77.4203431372549

    87.7430555555556

    100000

    81.4950980392157

    92.3611111111111

    105000

    85.5698529411765

    96.9791666666667

    110000

    89.6446078431373

    101.597222222222

    115000

    93.719362745098

    106.215277777778

    120000

    97.7941176470588

    110.833333333333

    125000

    101.86887254902

    115.451388888889

    130000

    105.94362745098

    120.069444444444

    135000

    110.018382352941

    124.6875

    140000

    114.093137254902

    129.305555555556

    145000

    118.167892156863

    133.923611111111

    150000

    122.242647058824

    138.541666666667

    155000

    126.317401960784

    143.159722222222

    165000

    134.466911764706

    152.3958333333

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    Xiangyang Liu
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    Wow, I like the amount of money I could have made doing consulting and felt bad that I did not. :-D

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    • X Xiangyang Liu

      Wow, I like the amount of money I could have made doing consulting and felt bad that I did not. :-D

      My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
      wrote on last edited by
      #5

      Well it isn't an amount but a direct correlation. If you think you are worth, let's say $50k a year annual salary you should charge $41 an hour for a 6 month contract. In the end it will be about the same on the annual taxes.

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      • M MidwestLimey

        Excuses, excuses ... -0.0039485 per hour for you! :D


        I'm largely language agnostic


        After a while they all bug me :doh:


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        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
        wrote on last edited by
        #6

        Yeah, on my blog I am going to format it but when I post on CP I have to allow little errors in my comments so people can offer funny critiques.

        Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
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        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

          Well it isn't an amount but a direct correlation. If you think you are worth, let's say $50k a year annual salary you should charge $41 an hour for a 6 month contract. In the end it will be about the same on the annual taxes.

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          PIEBALDconsult
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          No, 92, and take the other six months off.

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          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

            I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

            Fulltime USD Per Annum

            Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

            Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

            20000

            16.2990196078431

            18.4722222222222

            25000

            20.3737745098039

            23.0902777777778

            30000

            24.4485294117647

            27.7083333333333

            35000

            28.5232843137255

            32.3263888888889

            40000

            32.5980392156863

            36.9444444444444

            45000

            36.6727941176471

            41.5625

            50000

            40.7475490196078

            46.1805555555556

            55000

            44.8223039215686

            50.7986111111111

            65000

            52.9718137254902

            60.0347222222222

            70000

            57.046568627451

            64.6527777777778

            85000

            69.2708333333333

            78.5069444444444

            90000

            73.3455882352941

            83.125

            95000

            77.4203431372549

            87.7430555555556

            100000

            81.4950980392157

            92.3611111111111

            105000

            85.5698529411765

            96.9791666666667

            110000

            89.6446078431373

            101.597222222222

            115000

            93.719362745098

            106.215277777778

            120000

            97.7941176470588

            110.833333333333

            125000

            101.86887254902

            115.451388888889

            130000

            105.94362745098

            120.069444444444

            135000

            110.018382352941

            124.6875

            140000

            114.093137254902

            129.305555555556

            145000

            118.167892156863

            133.923611111111

            150000

            122.242647058824

            138.541666666667

            155000

            126.317401960784

            143.159722222222

            165000

            134.466911764706

            152.3958333333

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            leppie
            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            Would a simple function be easier? ;P IOW:

            Fulltime USD Per Annum: x
            Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr: x/1226
            Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr: x/1082

            :)

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            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

              I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

              Fulltime USD Per Annum

              Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

              Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

              20000

              16.2990196078431

              18.4722222222222

              25000

              20.3737745098039

              23.0902777777778

              30000

              24.4485294117647

              27.7083333333333

              35000

              28.5232843137255

              32.3263888888889

              40000

              32.5980392156863

              36.9444444444444

              45000

              36.6727941176471

              41.5625

              50000

              40.7475490196078

              46.1805555555556

              55000

              44.8223039215686

              50.7986111111111

              65000

              52.9718137254902

              60.0347222222222

              70000

              57.046568627451

              64.6527777777778

              85000

              69.2708333333333

              78.5069444444444

              90000

              73.3455882352941

              83.125

              95000

              77.4203431372549

              87.7430555555556

              100000

              81.4950980392157

              92.3611111111111

              105000

              85.5698529411765

              96.9791666666667

              110000

              89.6446078431373

              101.597222222222

              115000

              93.719362745098

              106.215277777778

              120000

              97.7941176470588

              110.833333333333

              125000

              101.86887254902

              115.451388888889

              130000

              105.94362745098

              120.069444444444

              135000

              110.018382352941

              124.6875

              140000

              114.093137254902

              129.305555555556

              145000

              118.167892156863

              133.923611111111

              150000

              122.242647058824

              138.541666666667

              155000

              126.317401960784

              143.159722222222

              165000

              134.466911764706

              152.3958333333

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              Rob Graham
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              so how did you arrive at the numbers? does this take into account the value of benefits (health ins., 401K contributions, holidays, vacations)? employer share of FICA/Medicare? How did you arrive at the penalty factor for no contract?

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              • L leppie

                Would a simple function be easier? ;P IOW:

                Fulltime USD Per Annum: x
                Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr: x/1226
                Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr: x/1082

                :)

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                Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                It would but then people would but I think people like tables. Plus looking at the divisor might incorrectly lead people to believe they only need to work that number of hours per year. When the actual result is only achieved with an effort to work 40 hours per week every week except for two weeks vacation and 10 holidays.

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                • R Rob Graham

                  so how did you arrive at the numbers? does this take into account the value of benefits (health ins., 401K contributions, holidays, vacations)? employer share of FICA/Medicare? How did you arrive at the penalty factor for no contract?

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #11

                  It takes full into account health and benefits and fica medicare. There is some fudge factor based on down time between contracts. Up to %35 of your billable hours could be spent looking for contracts in some cases. Technically this is work, hard work, and needs to be accounted for. I like to think it can take up to 4 weeks to find a 6 month contract so I use, in my personal calculations a fudge factor of 8 weeks per year or 15% of available time as down time. The best way to use the number, let's use $50k again, is to say 41*1600 = 61,500 total expected revenue per year. $50k *.15 = FICA = $7500. Which leaves $4,000 for benefits. Which is a reasonable amount for someone with a $50k a year base salary. (I said reasonable not good) Of course, if you work more than 40 per week or have a better than average turn around on a contract you get the potential to earn profit.

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                  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                    I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

                    Fulltime USD Per Annum

                    Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

                    Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

                    20000

                    16.2990196078431

                    18.4722222222222

                    25000

                    20.3737745098039

                    23.0902777777778

                    30000

                    24.4485294117647

                    27.7083333333333

                    35000

                    28.5232843137255

                    32.3263888888889

                    40000

                    32.5980392156863

                    36.9444444444444

                    45000

                    36.6727941176471

                    41.5625

                    50000

                    40.7475490196078

                    46.1805555555556

                    55000

                    44.8223039215686

                    50.7986111111111

                    65000

                    52.9718137254902

                    60.0347222222222

                    70000

                    57.046568627451

                    64.6527777777778

                    85000

                    69.2708333333333

                    78.5069444444444

                    90000

                    73.3455882352941

                    83.125

                    95000

                    77.4203431372549

                    87.7430555555556

                    100000

                    81.4950980392157

                    92.3611111111111

                    105000

                    85.5698529411765

                    96.9791666666667

                    110000

                    89.6446078431373

                    101.597222222222

                    115000

                    93.719362745098

                    106.215277777778

                    120000

                    97.7941176470588

                    110.833333333333

                    125000

                    101.86887254902

                    115.451388888889

                    130000

                    105.94362745098

                    120.069444444444

                    135000

                    110.018382352941

                    124.6875

                    140000

                    114.093137254902

                    129.305555555556

                    145000

                    118.167892156863

                    133.923611111111

                    150000

                    122.242647058824

                    138.541666666667

                    155000

                    126.317401960784

                    143.159722222222

                    165000

                    134.466911764706

                    152.3958333333

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                    Member 96
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    Why'd you stop at 180k? :) I'm guessing if I was a consultant my hourly rate would be through the roof. :cool:


                    "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      Yeah, on my blog I am going to format it but when I post on CP I have to allow little errors in my comments so people can offer funny critiques.

                      Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                      Member 96
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      :laugh: Even if there aren't any errors you'll get lot's of little critiques from this anal retentive bunch. :)


                      "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot

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                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                        I didn't add all those line breaks in the message it just occurs when I did the table?

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                        Bruce Chapman DNN
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        It's an interesting table. Funnily enough you are within a couple of percent of what I charge / think I should earn if I were to get a job. Now I'd like to see a spreadsheet on how I can convince people that a $20/hr outsourced developer is not comparing apples with apples. Incidentally, do you advertise your rates or just save them up for when people ask?

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                        • B Bruce Chapman DNN

                          It's an interesting table. Funnily enough you are within a couple of percent of what I charge / think I should earn if I were to get a job. Now I'd like to see a spreadsheet on how I can convince people that a $20/hr outsourced developer is not comparing apples with apples. Incidentally, do you advertise your rates or just save them up for when people ask?

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                          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #15

                          I don't publish them online because there is so much competition online and many people will not call if they see you as too expensive. Its not top secret though, if it's something you are interested in send an email and I will give you the skinny.

                          Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                          Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                            I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

                            Fulltime USD Per Annum

                            Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

                            Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

                            20000

                            16.2990196078431

                            18.4722222222222

                            25000

                            20.3737745098039

                            23.0902777777778

                            30000

                            24.4485294117647

                            27.7083333333333

                            35000

                            28.5232843137255

                            32.3263888888889

                            40000

                            32.5980392156863

                            36.9444444444444

                            45000

                            36.6727941176471

                            41.5625

                            50000

                            40.7475490196078

                            46.1805555555556

                            55000

                            44.8223039215686

                            50.7986111111111

                            65000

                            52.9718137254902

                            60.0347222222222

                            70000

                            57.046568627451

                            64.6527777777778

                            85000

                            69.2708333333333

                            78.5069444444444

                            90000

                            73.3455882352941

                            83.125

                            95000

                            77.4203431372549

                            87.7430555555556

                            100000

                            81.4950980392157

                            92.3611111111111

                            105000

                            85.5698529411765

                            96.9791666666667

                            110000

                            89.6446078431373

                            101.597222222222

                            115000

                            93.719362745098

                            106.215277777778

                            120000

                            97.7941176470588

                            110.833333333333

                            125000

                            101.86887254902

                            115.451388888889

                            130000

                            105.94362745098

                            120.069444444444

                            135000

                            110.018382352941

                            124.6875

                            140000

                            114.093137254902

                            129.305555555556

                            145000

                            118.167892156863

                            133.923611111111

                            150000

                            122.242647058824

                            138.541666666667

                            155000

                            126.317401960784

                            143.159722222222

                            165000

                            134.466911764706

                            152.3958333333

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                            ftw melvin
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            I'd lose everything after the second decimal place for readability if you are going to post it. Interesting calculation, as a rule of thumb you are saying $1000 ~= 80c an hour. Converting this into English, if Joe Senior Dev earned around £40,000 per year they should only consider resuming contracting, after say six year's permanent frustration, if they were happy you could get £32 per hour consistently. I think you've made my Joe's mind up!

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                            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                              I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

                              Fulltime USD Per Annum

                              Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

                              Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

                              20000

                              16.2990196078431

                              18.4722222222222

                              25000

                              20.3737745098039

                              23.0902777777778

                              30000

                              24.4485294117647

                              27.7083333333333

                              35000

                              28.5232843137255

                              32.3263888888889

                              40000

                              32.5980392156863

                              36.9444444444444

                              45000

                              36.6727941176471

                              41.5625

                              50000

                              40.7475490196078

                              46.1805555555556

                              55000

                              44.8223039215686

                              50.7986111111111

                              65000

                              52.9718137254902

                              60.0347222222222

                              70000

                              57.046568627451

                              64.6527777777778

                              85000

                              69.2708333333333

                              78.5069444444444

                              90000

                              73.3455882352941

                              83.125

                              95000

                              77.4203431372549

                              87.7430555555556

                              100000

                              81.4950980392157

                              92.3611111111111

                              105000

                              85.5698529411765

                              96.9791666666667

                              110000

                              89.6446078431373

                              101.597222222222

                              115000

                              93.719362745098

                              106.215277777778

                              120000

                              97.7941176470588

                              110.833333333333

                              125000

                              101.86887254902

                              115.451388888889

                              130000

                              105.94362745098

                              120.069444444444

                              135000

                              110.018382352941

                              124.6875

                              140000

                              114.093137254902

                              129.305555555556

                              145000

                              118.167892156863

                              133.923611111111

                              150000

                              122.242647058824

                              138.541666666667

                              155000

                              126.317401960784

                              143.159722222222

                              165000

                              134.466911764706

                              152.3958333333

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                              ftw melvin
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #17

                              http://www.contractorcalculator.co.uk/[^]

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                                http://www.contractorcalculator.co.uk/[^]

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                                Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #18

                                The results of that calculator are no where near my results. I think mine are more realistic.

                                Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
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                                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                  The results of that calculator are no where near my results. I think mine are more realistic.

                                  Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                                  Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                                  ftw melvin
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #19

                                  I'm sure yours are well researched, the tax conditions in the UK compared to the USA are quite different which could account for the difference. Just wanted to show you an alternative.

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