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  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

    I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

    Fulltime USD Per Annum

    Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

    Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

    20000

    16.2990196078431

    18.4722222222222

    25000

    20.3737745098039

    23.0902777777778

    30000

    24.4485294117647

    27.7083333333333

    35000

    28.5232843137255

    32.3263888888889

    40000

    32.5980392156863

    36.9444444444444

    45000

    36.6727941176471

    41.5625

    50000

    40.7475490196078

    46.1805555555556

    55000

    44.8223039215686

    50.7986111111111

    65000

    52.9718137254902

    60.0347222222222

    70000

    57.046568627451

    64.6527777777778

    85000

    69.2708333333333

    78.5069444444444

    90000

    73.3455882352941

    83.125

    95000

    77.4203431372549

    87.7430555555556

    100000

    81.4950980392157

    92.3611111111111

    105000

    85.5698529411765

    96.9791666666667

    110000

    89.6446078431373

    101.597222222222

    115000

    93.719362745098

    106.215277777778

    120000

    97.7941176470588

    110.833333333333

    125000

    101.86887254902

    115.451388888889

    130000

    105.94362745098

    120.069444444444

    135000

    110.018382352941

    124.6875

    140000

    114.093137254902

    129.305555555556

    145000

    118.167892156863

    133.923611111111

    150000

    122.242647058824

    138.541666666667

    155000

    126.317401960784

    143.159722222222

    165000

    134.466911764706

    152.3958333333

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    leppie
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    Would a simple function be easier? ;P IOW:

    Fulltime USD Per Annum: x
    Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr: x/1226
    Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr: x/1082

    :)

    xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
    IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 3 out now

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    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

      I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

      Fulltime USD Per Annum

      Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

      Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

      20000

      16.2990196078431

      18.4722222222222

      25000

      20.3737745098039

      23.0902777777778

      30000

      24.4485294117647

      27.7083333333333

      35000

      28.5232843137255

      32.3263888888889

      40000

      32.5980392156863

      36.9444444444444

      45000

      36.6727941176471

      41.5625

      50000

      40.7475490196078

      46.1805555555556

      55000

      44.8223039215686

      50.7986111111111

      65000

      52.9718137254902

      60.0347222222222

      70000

      57.046568627451

      64.6527777777778

      85000

      69.2708333333333

      78.5069444444444

      90000

      73.3455882352941

      83.125

      95000

      77.4203431372549

      87.7430555555556

      100000

      81.4950980392157

      92.3611111111111

      105000

      85.5698529411765

      96.9791666666667

      110000

      89.6446078431373

      101.597222222222

      115000

      93.719362745098

      106.215277777778

      120000

      97.7941176470588

      110.833333333333

      125000

      101.86887254902

      115.451388888889

      130000

      105.94362745098

      120.069444444444

      135000

      110.018382352941

      124.6875

      140000

      114.093137254902

      129.305555555556

      145000

      118.167892156863

      133.923611111111

      150000

      122.242647058824

      138.541666666667

      155000

      126.317401960784

      143.159722222222

      165000

      134.466911764706

      152.3958333333

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      Rob Graham
      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      so how did you arrive at the numbers? does this take into account the value of benefits (health ins., 401K contributions, holidays, vacations)? employer share of FICA/Medicare? How did you arrive at the penalty factor for no contract?

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      • L leppie

        Would a simple function be easier? ;P IOW:

        Fulltime USD Per Annum: x
        Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr: x/1226
        Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr: x/1082

        :)

        xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
        IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 3 out now

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        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
        wrote on last edited by
        #10

        It would but then people would but I think people like tables. Plus looking at the divisor might incorrectly lead people to believe they only need to work that number of hours per year. When the actual result is only achieved with an effort to work 40 hours per week every week except for two weeks vacation and 10 holidays.

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        • R Rob Graham

          so how did you arrive at the numbers? does this take into account the value of benefits (health ins., 401K contributions, holidays, vacations)? employer share of FICA/Medicare? How did you arrive at the penalty factor for no contract?

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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          It takes full into account health and benefits and fica medicare. There is some fudge factor based on down time between contracts. Up to %35 of your billable hours could be spent looking for contracts in some cases. Technically this is work, hard work, and needs to be accounted for. I like to think it can take up to 4 weeks to find a 6 month contract so I use, in my personal calculations a fudge factor of 8 weeks per year or 15% of available time as down time. The best way to use the number, let's use $50k again, is to say 41*1600 = 61,500 total expected revenue per year. $50k *.15 = FICA = $7500. Which leaves $4,000 for benefits. Which is a reasonable amount for someone with a $50k a year base salary. (I said reasonable not good) Of course, if you work more than 40 per week or have a better than average turn around on a contract you get the potential to earn profit.

          Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
          Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

            I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

            Fulltime USD Per Annum

            Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

            Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

            20000

            16.2990196078431

            18.4722222222222

            25000

            20.3737745098039

            23.0902777777778

            30000

            24.4485294117647

            27.7083333333333

            35000

            28.5232843137255

            32.3263888888889

            40000

            32.5980392156863

            36.9444444444444

            45000

            36.6727941176471

            41.5625

            50000

            40.7475490196078

            46.1805555555556

            55000

            44.8223039215686

            50.7986111111111

            65000

            52.9718137254902

            60.0347222222222

            70000

            57.046568627451

            64.6527777777778

            85000

            69.2708333333333

            78.5069444444444

            90000

            73.3455882352941

            83.125

            95000

            77.4203431372549

            87.7430555555556

            100000

            81.4950980392157

            92.3611111111111

            105000

            85.5698529411765

            96.9791666666667

            110000

            89.6446078431373

            101.597222222222

            115000

            93.719362745098

            106.215277777778

            120000

            97.7941176470588

            110.833333333333

            125000

            101.86887254902

            115.451388888889

            130000

            105.94362745098

            120.069444444444

            135000

            110.018382352941

            124.6875

            140000

            114.093137254902

            129.305555555556

            145000

            118.167892156863

            133.923611111111

            150000

            122.242647058824

            138.541666666667

            155000

            126.317401960784

            143.159722222222

            165000

            134.466911764706

            152.3958333333

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            Member 96
            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            Why'd you stop at 180k? :) I'm guessing if I was a consultant my hourly rate would be through the roof. :cool:


            "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot

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            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

              Yeah, on my blog I am going to format it but when I post on CP I have to allow little errors in my comments so people can offer funny critiques.

              Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
              Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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              Member 96
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              :laugh: Even if there aren't any errors you'll get lot's of little critiques from this anal retentive bunch. :)


              "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                I didn't add all those line breaks in the message it just occurs when I did the table?

                Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                Bruce Chapman DNN
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                It's an interesting table. Funnily enough you are within a couple of percent of what I charge / think I should earn if I were to get a job. Now I'd like to see a spreadsheet on how I can convince people that a $20/hr outsourced developer is not comparing apples with apples. Incidentally, do you advertise your rates or just save them up for when people ask?

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                • B Bruce Chapman DNN

                  It's an interesting table. Funnily enough you are within a couple of percent of what I charge / think I should earn if I were to get a job. Now I'd like to see a spreadsheet on how I can convince people that a $20/hr outsourced developer is not comparing apples with apples. Incidentally, do you advertise your rates or just save them up for when people ask?

                  Bruce Chapman iFinity.com.au - Websites and Software Development | Do you need a specialist DotNetNuke developer? Plithy remark available in Beta 2

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  I don't publish them online because there is so much competition online and many people will not call if they see you as too expensive. Its not top secret though, if it's something you are interested in send an email and I will give you the skinny.

                  Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                  Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                    I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

                    Fulltime USD Per Annum

                    Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

                    Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

                    20000

                    16.2990196078431

                    18.4722222222222

                    25000

                    20.3737745098039

                    23.0902777777778

                    30000

                    24.4485294117647

                    27.7083333333333

                    35000

                    28.5232843137255

                    32.3263888888889

                    40000

                    32.5980392156863

                    36.9444444444444

                    45000

                    36.6727941176471

                    41.5625

                    50000

                    40.7475490196078

                    46.1805555555556

                    55000

                    44.8223039215686

                    50.7986111111111

                    65000

                    52.9718137254902

                    60.0347222222222

                    70000

                    57.046568627451

                    64.6527777777778

                    85000

                    69.2708333333333

                    78.5069444444444

                    90000

                    73.3455882352941

                    83.125

                    95000

                    77.4203431372549

                    87.7430555555556

                    100000

                    81.4950980392157

                    92.3611111111111

                    105000

                    85.5698529411765

                    96.9791666666667

                    110000

                    89.6446078431373

                    101.597222222222

                    115000

                    93.719362745098

                    106.215277777778

                    120000

                    97.7941176470588

                    110.833333333333

                    125000

                    101.86887254902

                    115.451388888889

                    130000

                    105.94362745098

                    120.069444444444

                    135000

                    110.018382352941

                    124.6875

                    140000

                    114.093137254902

                    129.305555555556

                    145000

                    118.167892156863

                    133.923611111111

                    150000

                    122.242647058824

                    138.541666666667

                    155000

                    126.317401960784

                    143.159722222222

                    165000

                    134.466911764706

                    152.3958333333

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                    ftw melvin
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #16

                    I'd lose everything after the second decimal place for readability if you are going to post it. Interesting calculation, as a rule of thumb you are saying $1000 ~= 80c an hour. Converting this into English, if Joe Senior Dev earned around £40,000 per year they should only consider resuming contracting, after say six year's permanent frustration, if they were happy you could get £32 per hour consistently. I think you've made my Joe's mind up!

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

                      Fulltime USD Per Annum

                      Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

                      Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

                      20000

                      16.2990196078431

                      18.4722222222222

                      25000

                      20.3737745098039

                      23.0902777777778

                      30000

                      24.4485294117647

                      27.7083333333333

                      35000

                      28.5232843137255

                      32.3263888888889

                      40000

                      32.5980392156863

                      36.9444444444444

                      45000

                      36.6727941176471

                      41.5625

                      50000

                      40.7475490196078

                      46.1805555555556

                      55000

                      44.8223039215686

                      50.7986111111111

                      65000

                      52.9718137254902

                      60.0347222222222

                      70000

                      57.046568627451

                      64.6527777777778

                      85000

                      69.2708333333333

                      78.5069444444444

                      90000

                      73.3455882352941

                      83.125

                      95000

                      77.4203431372549

                      87.7430555555556

                      100000

                      81.4950980392157

                      92.3611111111111

                      105000

                      85.5698529411765

                      96.9791666666667

                      110000

                      89.6446078431373

                      101.597222222222

                      115000

                      93.719362745098

                      106.215277777778

                      120000

                      97.7941176470588

                      110.833333333333

                      125000

                      101.86887254902

                      115.451388888889

                      130000

                      105.94362745098

                      120.069444444444

                      135000

                      110.018382352941

                      124.6875

                      140000

                      114.093137254902

                      129.305555555556

                      145000

                      118.167892156863

                      133.923611111111

                      150000

                      122.242647058824

                      138.541666666667

                      155000

                      126.317401960784

                      143.159722222222

                      165000

                      134.466911764706

                      152.3958333333

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                      ftw melvin
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      http://www.contractorcalculator.co.uk/[^]

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                      • F ftw melvin

                        http://www.contractorcalculator.co.uk/[^]

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                        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        The results of that calculator are no where near my results. I think mine are more realistic.

                        Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                        Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                          The results of that calculator are no where near my results. I think mine are more realistic.

                          Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                          Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                          ftw melvin
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #19

                          I'm sure yours are well researched, the tax conditions in the UK compared to the USA are quite different which could account for the difference. Just wanted to show you an alternative.

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